Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm wondering this, too. The data would still be there, and they wouldn't have to worry about maintenance costs at least, right?
Shutting them down could easily destroy evidence depending on how it's done. EX: Many redundant systems try replicating data from machines that are taken off line. What happens when the full network is taken off line quickly has probably not been tested.
Storing 25 petabytes of Megaupload data costs us $9,000 a day
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Re: Storing 25 petabytes of Megaupload data costs us $9,000 a day
#102In my mind, the MPAA is certainly the best choice to pay these costs. They're the ones with the problem, they should be the ones to bear the burden. Especially considering Megaupload offered to take the data and they explicitly forbade it. If the MPAA didn't like the solutions offered, but can't come up with something better, then I think Carpathia should get to do what it wants. Edit: The opinion above has NO legal…
Expanding on this, if a company wants to claim that they always own a particular combination of bits should they pay rent for storing it on my system? The problem is people are generally short sighted and focused on the immediate future. Other considerations are rarely thought about until other people insist that something will affect their immediate future. There are costs associated with data that are rarely considered at the moment. No one to talk about this, it may change the way they do things and cost them money.
Re: Storing 25 petabytes of Megaupload data costs us $9,000 a day
#103I've dealt with e-discovery sets. No one really has answers to what to do when you have a litigation hold on data. Legislation commonly requires "retention of anything related to X case", but how do you know what's relevant and what isn't? When you are a third party the ambiguity increases. So you end up with an everything and kitchen sink data dump. Even with everything the data is commonly useless without context.…
Re: Storing 25 petabytes of Megaupload data costs us $9,000 a day
#104Back-of-the-envelope calculation: Just did a search for "1080" on some unnamed site and it appears a bluray rip of a movie encodes to roughly 10GB. So that would be 2.5 million movies in 1080p quality. I don't think we've made that many, have we? Especially if you consider that movies that came out before the "high-definition era" are encoded to about a 10th of that size (700MB-2GB roughly, afaik).
Maybe I'm missing something obvious.
Not counting TV series for instance (are they also intellectual property represented by the MPAA? I'm not in the USA so I never really dug into that).
Movies duplicated in different quality formats are usually a 10th or less of the size of a 1080p Bluray rip as well, as an upper limit I could add a factor of x1.5 for that.
But then, the "long tail" of movie rips are 700-800MB and do not have duplicates.
Unless ... is the MPAA also representing porn? Because then all bets are off and I can easily accept that this 25 petabyte consists mostly of MPAA protected intellectual properties.
But otherwise, what percentage of these 25 petabytes would you estimate actually represents illegitimate data owned/represented by the MPAA? 2% ? 10% ?
Is that fair to the owners of the other 90% of the data? Even if it's probably mostly porn? (I'm fairly sure most of the data has to be porn)
I'm just wondering. Also because it's interesting to speculate what could be in these 25 petabytes. If you have a better guess I'd love to hear it :)
Re: Storing 25 petabytes of Megaupload data costs us $9,000 a day
#105So, 25 petabytes ... 25 million gigabytes. Anyone care to guess how much of this data is illegitimate? And how much of that is under MPAA's copyright? Back-of-the-envelope calculation: Just did a search for "1080" on some unnamed site and it appears a bluray rip of a movie encodes to roughly 10GB. So that would be 2.5 million movies in 1080p quality. I don't think we've made that many, have we? Especially if you cons…
Save your children; MPAA cares mostly to keep servicing them porn; end them now!
Re: Storing 25 petabytes of Megaupload data costs us $9,000 a day
#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
The FBI, as MPAA's minions, should be the ones paying it. Either their "confiscate" the data or they do not. If they do, they have the responsibility to keep it up, if they do not, they should have to give it back to its "owner".
Unwitting puppets perhaps, but I doubt the people of the FBI want very much to be dealing with copyright drama. That's like fixing bugs in form code to them. It must feel like a complete waste of their time and talent.
Re: Storing 25 petabytes of Megaupload data costs us $9,000 a day
#107So, 25 petabytes ... 25 million gigabytes. Anyone care to guess how much of this data is illegitimate? And how much of that is under MPAA's copyright? Back-of-the-envelope calculation: Just did a search for "1080" on some unnamed site and it appears a bluray rip of a movie encodes to roughly 10GB. So that would be 2.5 million movies in 1080p quality. I don't think we've made that many, have we? Especially if you cons…
> Each petabyte is equal to approximately 1,000,000 (one million) gigabytes, or the storage capacity required to store “…about 13.3 years of HD-TV video. About 50 Libraries of Congress.” (http://www.nasa.gov/centers/langley/news/researchernews/rn_d...)
I was guessing games and software make up some data. I just had a look at a torrent site. They have 400 pages, with 25 items per page. At roughly 5 GB per item that's still only about 50 terabytes.
Re: Storing 25 petabytes of Megaupload data costs us $9,000 a day
#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Believe it or not, there are even people who don't have backups at all. I know, right?
Not backing up your important data is passive stupidity. Backing up your data on Megaupload and then not keeping a local copy is active stupidity of such vast scale that I refuse to believe it has ever happened in the real world.
The purpose of having a backup is so that you can restore your data after the original is lost, because there is a good chance the original will be lost. Explicitly retaining it on your local system is not enough to keep it safe. If it was, there would be no reason to backup in the first place.
If a million people used the service for backups, it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect several of them to have a drive failure each and every day.
Re: Storing 25 petabytes of Megaupload data costs us $9,000 a day
#109So, 25 petabytes ... 25 million gigabytes. Anyone care to guess how much of this data is illegitimate? And how much of that is under MPAA's copyright? Back-of-the-envelope calculation: Just did a search for "1080" on some unnamed site and it appears a bluray rip of a movie encodes to roughly 10GB. So that would be 2.5 million movies in 1080p quality. I don't think we've made that many, have we? Especially if you cons…
Frankly, the idea of pinning MPAA's actions on mostly protecting porn is a brilliant angle to fight back with in political arenas, where MPAA tries to draw human emotions and claims pirates are taking jobs away from honest people and our children are in trouble if pirates keep sharing their works. Save your children; MPAA cares mostly to keep servicing them porn; end them now!
So yes, PORN.
(Unrelated, your username is awfully similar to mine..)
Re: Storing 25 petabytes of Megaupload data costs us $9,000 a day
#110So, 25 petabytes ... 25 million gigabytes. Anyone care to guess how much of this data is illegitimate? And how much of that is under MPAA's copyright? Back-of-the-envelope calculation: Just did a search for "1080" on some unnamed site and it appears a bluray rip of a movie encodes to roughly 10GB. So that would be 2.5 million movies in 1080p quality. I don't think we've made that many, have we? Especially if you cons…
I've got 4TB of storage on my media server, last time I checked at ~60% used.At _best_, possibly 0.5% of that is stuff that I've personally created and have copyright over. Hell, all the email I've sent _or recieved_ that wasnt spam filtered since mid 1995 only comes to a few hundred meg - including attachments! Smething less than half a TB of it is music which I have some kind of right to have as digital files (some of it purchased as files, some of it ripped from cd and vinyl - which is somewhat less clear legally with respect to my rights to have a "copy" as a file on my hard drives). Realistically, outside of academia and industry (who presumably aren't significant users of MegaUpload) chances are so close to 100% that any 1GB+ file is copyright encumbered in a way that gives the MPAA an interest that it doesn't matter. The nearest I cold come to justifying the rest is that some of it it "time shifted" TV (from the PS3 TV tuner/PVR), some of it is DVD backups for discs I own, some migh euphemistically be referred to as "timeshifted DVD rentals or loans", but a _lot_ is copyrited content found on "channel BitTorrent" or downloaded from YouTube. If the copyright police confiscated _my_ hard disks and catalogued them in front of a judge, I'd have a very hard time looking him in the eye and saying "I didn't think I was doing anything wrong!"
I fear that line of argument bodes badly for dotcom…