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Are any words the same in all languages?

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Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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"Tea" is ruined by my native language, Polish: herbata. Robot seems to be a good candidate though: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/robot

and apparently Lithuanian borrowed that from Polish: arbata. Quick Google showed, that herbata comes from Latin: herba thea

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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post #321

"Tea" is ruined by my native language, Polish: herbata. Robot seems to be a good candidate though: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/robot

and apparently Lithuanian borrowed that from Polish: arbata. Quick Google showed, that herbata comes from Latin: herba thea

Where the “thea” part comes from Chinese. It would be bizarre for a beverage discovered in ancient China (and brought to Europe only a couple centuries ago) to be named in latin.

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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These seem like very bad candidates. All are loan words, which is interesting, but we could go deeper if we're considering pineapple/ananas and coffee. And let's be real, words like robot and computer are mostly the same in this respect too, especially if we're considering taxi. But what about words that are more "native"? How about "mama" and "papa"? There are variations, but these seem to be pretty small and mostly…

> Chez: mama, tatínek I hate to be "that guy," but I think this is Czech, not "Chez" (which is a French word meaning "at the home of"). Also, if it is Czech, then the word for mother should be properly written máma (with the acute accent).

And it's not 'tatínek' (which is the 'soft' variant of the word) but táta...

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

#325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Chez: mama, tatínek I hate to be "that guy," but I think this is Czech, not "Chez" (which is a French word meaning "at the home of"). Also, if it is Czech, then the word for mother should be properly written máma (with the acute accent).

And it's not 'tatínek' (which is the 'soft' variant of the word) but táta...

Tatínek isn't soft, it's diminutive, and although it's a correct word, it's not he word that children are likely to say.

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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Another commonality across many languages is naming days of the week after celestial bodies:

  Sunday    Sun     Sōlis    Hēlíou     日曜日
  Monday    Moon    Lūnae    Selḗnēs    月曜日
  Tuesday   Mars    Mārtis   Áreōs      火曜日
  Wednesday Mercury Mercuriī Hermoû     水曜日
  Thursday  Jupiter Iovis    Diós       木曜日
  Friday    Venus   Veneris  Aphrodítēs 金曜日
  Saturday  Saturn  Sāturnī  Krónou     土曜日
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_days_of_the_week

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Georgian “mama” means father

Georgians have been gender-unassuming since ancient time

Fun fact, there is a thing called a "noun class" which some people use synonymously with "grammatical gender"[0]. (not all noun classes are gendered) Personally I always liked the former term better because really just from a statistical point of view it doesn't make sense to me to call the "gender" conjugations gender based. There's far more inanimate objects that have a g̶e̶n̶d̶e̶r̶ categorical class than there are people, so I think it is more clear that you share the same categorical class as a table/chair/spoon/whatever than you do with the gender. I mean no French person thinks a vagina is masculine[1]. It always made more sense to me that the category is based on sound rather than gender because no person is really internalizing the gender of an inanimate object except for that one study that couldn't be replicated[2], so our brains don't seem to be placing strong connections on those (but do create strong connections with sounds).

Personally, it just feels like gendered languages just place men and women in different noun classes while non-gendered languages don't. But it feels weird to place the emphasis on the gender when the vast majority of things in the category don't have gender. It's all rather confusing and I'm not a linguist so don't take anything I say with high confidence.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noun_class

[1] https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-french-word-for-vagina-a-ma...

[2] https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/gcla-2014-000...

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Another example of this article being confidently wrong about tomato is Czech, where the word used is rajče or rajské jablko, the latter meaning "apple of paradise."

Same in Austrian German (Paradeiser) so perhaps something to do with it the Austro-Hungarian empire.

Hm, that's an interesting thought which never occurred to me until now. I didn't know about the Austrian German expression, but paradicsom in Hungarian can mean either tomato or paradise! Please chime in if you're familiar with other languages of the Austro-Hungarian empire.

Edited to add: According to Wikipedia [0], the original Hungarian expression was also "apple of paradise," which then got shortened to just paradiscom. It also points out that the Italian pomodoro is literally "apple of gold." I guess the far-flung origins were thought of as paradisical...

[0] https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradicsom_(n%C3%B6v%C3%A9nyfa...

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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Another commonality across many languages is naming days of the week after celestial bodies: Sunday Sun Sōlis Hēlíou 日曜日 Monday Moon Lūnae Selḗnēs 月曜日 Tuesday Mars Mārtis Áreōs 火曜日 Wednesday Mercury Mercuriī Hermoû 水曜日 Thursday Jupiter Iovis Diós 木曜日 Friday Venus Veneris Aphrodítēs 金曜日 Saturday Saturn Sāturnī Krónou 土曜日 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_days_of_the_week

Note that some of these are technically loan words. I even made a similar mistake with my post about Japanese.

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

#330

I've been on the hunt for the equivalent of "preaching to the choir" which, as far as I can tell, only really exists in English. For non-English speakers it translates to: "Attempting to convince a group of people who are already convinced of something" Anyone have an example in another language?

Portuguese: Pregar ao convertido. English: Preach to the [already] converted. Very equivalent.

> Portuguese: Pregar ao convertido

This is really not a common expression.

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