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Why isn't chess popular in Japan?

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Re: Why isn't chess popular in Japan?

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post #9

Probably because they have Shogi, which is also fun to play. They also like Go, which I hate. Absolutely love Mahjong, though. (Thanks Yakuza series!)

My understanding is that Mahjong is more of a rummy style game than a tactical game like a chess/shogi/go so not really applicable here.

Re: Why isn't chess popular in Japan?

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post #9

Probably because they have Shogi, which is also fun to play. They also like Go, which I hate. Absolutely love Mahjong, though. (Thanks Yakuza series!)

My understanding is that Mahjong is more of a rummy style game than a tactical game like a chess/shogi/go so not really applicable here.

True. I just meant in a general sense. I love playing it.

Re: Why isn't chess popular in Japan?

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For those interested in playing and learning Shogi, take a look over at the great site https://lishogi.org -- a fork of LiChess for Shogi that includes real-time and correspondence play, AI opponents, analysis, puzzles and more. One of my favorite variants, Kyoto Shogi, is also available. The website https://pychess.org also has a ton of interesting and unique variants both traditional (Makruk) and modern (Chennis!).

Thanks for the site. I was able to learn a bit about Shogi, although I don't think I have the capacity to memorize it all at once up front.

Re: Why isn't chess popular in Japan?

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It's because Go is a much better game. Shogi is inferior though to Chess because it takes too long to play with the pieces being returnable.

That's debatable. Maybe shogi is superior to chess because it's a longer game and pieces can change side. Or maybe Chinese chess are better because they are a faster game with less pieces and more movement. Go is definitely better than all of them though, at least for me, and yet it's less popular than any game of chess in any country.

What?

Go is not less popular than Chess in China or Korea

Re: Why isn't chess popular in Japan?

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post #10
post #8

They play shogi, go, and riichi mahjong

Is riichi mahjong even that popular?

I don't know for riichi mahjong, but "mahjong" is pretty popular, yes. But the betting aspect puts it probably closer to poker than chess or other games where money is rarely involved.

Re: Why isn't chess popular in Japan?

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One thing that kinda sucks in Tokyo in particular is a dearth of just chill public spaces. I think Go and Shogi both benefit from incumbent status, with club spaces and the like existing. Chess meetups right now seem to be relegated to city community spaces (glad they exist!). But I was real jealous when I was in Brisbane for a bit and visisted a chess meetup that was just happening in a cafe. Also saw some kids playing in the local library. It's nice for there to be spaces that allow for activities that don't require an exchange of money beyond maybe buying one drink.

Re: Why isn't chess popular in Japan?

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It's because Go is a much better game. Shogi is inferior though to Chess because it takes too long to play with the pieces being returnable.

As much as I enjoy Go and personally consider it a better game, it's not what's holding chess back in Japan. Go isn't _that_ popular there.
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