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Are any words the same in all languages?

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Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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Perhaps, it would be more useful for students if foreign language courses start with explaining one thing that is well known to linguists, but maybe does not have enough recognition by a wide audience. Most European languages are at some extent just dialects of the same common language[1]. And most of the words we use in distinct languages are (at some extent) just different pronunciations of the same vocabulary. Thi…

I severely underestimated how long it would take for me to learn Japanese based on my experience of learning English while being a native Portuguese speaker. English felt like a very different language but underneath it is so much closer in comparison.

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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Very surprised to see Amen not making the list. I know it is a Christian word at the end of a prayer meaning "so be it". However, even if the prayer language is changed I understand Amen to remain untranslated.

A _Christian_ word?

It's a Hebrew word: "אָמֵן"

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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These seem like very bad candidates. All are loan words, which is interesting, but we could go deeper if we're considering pineapple/ananas and coffee. And let's be real, words like robot and computer are mostly the same in this respect too, especially if we're considering taxi. But what about words that are more "native"? How about "mama" and "papa"? There are variations, but these seem to be pretty small and mostly…

Some examples from India

Telugu/Kannada : mother is "amma"

Hindi: "maa"

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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Perhaps, it would be more useful for students if foreign language courses start with explaining one thing that is well known to linguists, but maybe does not have enough recognition by a wide audience. Most European languages are at some extent just dialects of the same common language[1]. And most of the words we use in distinct languages are (at some extent) just different pronunciations of the same vocabulary. Thi…

If you're familiar with ancient and medieval European history, you're pretty much familiar with the origins of most of the European languages.

Areas that were part of the Roman Empire generally speak Latin dialects like Spanish, French, Italian and Portuguese. The exception being the eastern part of the Roman Empire which historically spoke Greek and still speaks Greek (except for the parts of the Roman Empire that remain Islamic).

Germany and Scandinavia speak Germanic languages because they were never Roman. Britain was only partially Roman and for significantly less time than France or southern Europe so it retained its Celtic languages except in the part conquered by the Anglo-Saxons (a Germanic tribe) who originally spoke a German language called Old English which was mostly mutually comprehensible with Old Norse (the language of a Germanic tribe called the Vikings who invaded England a few centuries after the Anglo-Saxons and were eventually converted to Christianity and assimilated). Then they were conquered by a French nobleman in 1066 and the English nobility spoke French for a few centuries before it fused with "Old English" into something that sounds somewhat like English.

Because of this, English speakers already know a significant number of words in both Germanic and "Romance" (Latin) languages, even moreso than for other Indo-European languages. But you still need to be careful not to trust a German offering you a "gift" (the German word for "poison" because, in German, it was a euphemism that lost its original meaning of English "gift"[0]).

[0]: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gift

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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post #165

I believe mango is another candidate for a word that's nearly the same in many languages. Like chai vs tea, the two words (that I know of) are aam and mango.

and "aam" also means commonplace in Hindi ... probably just a coincidence but interesting nevertheless

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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post #134

hungarian chimes in, the words mentioned in the article in hungarian: tea - tea (different pronunciation) pineapple - ananász orange - narancs taxi - taxi (slightly different pronunciation) tomato - paradicsom now let's look at the article's champions coffee - kávé chocolate - csokoládé both the same origin, but distorted so much, that i could not order those things in starbucks... so in my books, taxi is the winner

"paradicsom" just goes to show that this article is confidently incorrect: > Exceptions: Italian uses pomodoro, and some other languages use a word similar to the Italian one. Mandarin Chinese is another exception! "paradicsom" is not similar to pomodoro, in either pronounciation or meaning. And if the author has made one so simple mistake, we have to assume there are many more with the more exotic languages.

Another example of this article being confidently wrong about tomato is Czech, where the word used is rajče or rajské jablko, the latter meaning "apple of paradise."

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, "mango" is surprisingly consistent across every language I checked, but in Bengali and possibly quite a few other similar widely spoken languages it's different. Whereas "sushi" I haven't found a language using a distinct word for so far.

In Korean, sushi is 초밥 (cho-bap)

But does that actually refer to exactly what would be called "sushi" in other languages?

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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post #125

How much does 'no' vary? Non, niet, nein... but I don't know much about non-European languages.

Nahi in Hindi Naahi or Nako in Marathi Naa in Gujarati Illai in Tamil Illaa in Kannada Allaa in Malayalam (both are palindromes :) Naa in Bengali etc. https://translate.google.com/?sl=en&tl=gu&text=no&op=transla...

Well, Hindi, Marathi, Bengali, and Gujarati are all Indo European, interestingly enough.

Tamil, Kannada, and Malayalam are all Dravidian.

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, "mango" is surprisingly consistent across every language I checked, but in Bengali and possibly quite a few other similar widely spoken languages it's different. Whereas "sushi" I haven't found a language using a distinct word for so far.

I don't speak or understand Bengali and can't read the written form either, but when looking it up on Google translate, I got the following result: আম or Āma which is similar to the Hindi/Urdu word Aam (आम in Devanagari script) (آم in Urdu script).

Yes, which is still reasonably different to "mango".
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