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Are any words the same in all languages?

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Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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There is one word which I think is the same in all languages: Tariff. And it makes sense - it's the "how much?" that would be (and is) asked at any port and travelling hub.

German doesn't use that.

The word 'Tarif' exists in German but it's used in different contexts, eg for collective bargaining agreements between labour unions and employers.

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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These seem like very bad candidates. All are loan words, which is interesting, but we could go deeper if we're considering pineapple/ananas and coffee. And let's be real, words like robot and computer are mostly the same in this respect too, especially if we're considering taxi. But what about words that are more "native"? How about "mama" and "papa"? There are variations, but these seem to be pretty small and mostly…

In Georgian “mama” means father

and "uncle" in hindi (mother's brother, specifically; hindi has different words for various kinds of uncle/aunt/grandparent depending on the path through the family tree)

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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A Dutch friend once said that the one word from his language that has had universal reach was "apartheid"... I'm sure that if there are any truly global words they are probably ones like that (initially) attached to a specific geographical context.

There is another Dutch word that must be pretty widespread in STEM circles: ‘eigenvector’.

I always thought Eigenvektor was borrowed from German, not Dutch?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eigenvalues_and_eigenvectors#H... seems to confirm the German origins, citing David Hilbert and Hermann von Helmholtz as originators of the word.

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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How is that different than "chocolate" simply being a Spanish word which is very popular? Stealing words from other languages is arguably how most words get created.

"Stealing words" That's a bit harsh. We borrow words (or loan them). We certainly don't steal them - you are welcome to take them back at any time. My favourite borrow word conundrum is "biftek". That is a loan word from French by quite a few languages (not English) - bifteck. Now, bifteck is derived from "beef steak" (English) English is a bit odd due to having several different words for an animal and its flesh via…

> Norse invasion in 1066

Is that a common way of describing the Norman invasion?

Re: Are any words the same in all languages?

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They're considered fillers that mark a continuance on part of the speaker so that the other participants know that they will continue speaking. Different languages not only use different sounds, but in many cases continuation markers can also be "normal" words from the language. In English some examples would be "well", or "yes" which can be pure filler words to bridge to the next utterance. That being said, what is…

You make a good point. I looked it up and it's in MW and even scrabble recognizes it as an interjection. I think to be a word, at a minimum an utterance would have to conform to the phonemic structure of a language, but that's a low bar, and 'uh' passes. I guess it's a word!

> [...] would have to conform to the phonemic structure of a language [...]

I don't think that's a good criterion, because it would exclude a lot of loanwords.

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Even "hacker" isn't a bad candidate, though it does seem to be different in Arabic.

In German, if you pronounce 'Hacker' the English way, you mean the computer kind. If you pronounce 'Hacker' the German way, you mean a guy who physically hacks with perhaps a hoe.

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Turkish has an interesting deviation from the pattern: the Turkish word for mama is 'anne'. Turkish dad's follow the usual pattern though with 'baba'.

Is this similar to the name Annie? Or more like "ah-knee"? Either way, interesting note! I'm just really surprised that these words are similar across such varieties of languages. Like the fact that you have Asia, Europe, Africa, and from what I can find even the mama is similar in Cherokee[0]. So that's all continents! To me that's crazy. And extra fucking interesting that there appears to be (from my non-expert poi…

It’s similar to a stereotypical Canadian saying “on, eh?” eru’s response gives the best understanding though, as there’s no perfect English pronunciation of anne.
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