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Re: Ask HN: Where can you safely ask beginner-level questions online in 2023?

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Part of it may be that since wikipedia etc exists; you're "supposed to do your homework" before even asking. The idea that people might discuss things from and in a state of ignorance as a means of learning or even just social interaction, rather than from laziness ... that's not something most people think of. "Sophomoric discussion" is an insult now, somehow. It's fun how often things that "everybody knows" are, on…

"Sophomoric" was never a compliment.

I don't really understand the meaning of sophomoric discussion, but, is it basically being open to, and discussing thoughts, ideas, concepts, etc., that you're not an expert in?

Isn't talking about, and exploring things that you're not an expert in, good, rather than bad, as that's how you learn new things?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Sophomoric" was never a compliment.

I don't really understand the meaning of sophomoric discussion, but, is it basically being open to, and discussing thoughts, ideas, concepts, etc., that you're not an expert in? Isn't talking about, and exploring things that you're not an expert in, good, rather than bad, as that's how you learn new things?

>Isn't talking about, and exploring things that you're not an expert in, good, rather than bad, as that's how you learn new things?

Potentially, but that's not what "sophomoric" means. It's roughly the intersection of overconfident and immature.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really understand the meaning of sophomoric discussion, but, is it basically being open to, and discussing thoughts, ideas, concepts, etc., that you're not an expert in? Isn't talking about, and exploring things that you're not an expert in, good, rather than bad, as that's how you learn new things?

>Isn't talking about, and exploring things that you're not an expert in, good, rather than bad, as that's how you learn new things? Potentially, but that's not what "sophomoric" means. It's roughly the intersection of overconfident and immature.

Ah, gotcha, I didn't realize that sophomore was an insult - I just thought it meant you were a student

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Isn't talking about, and exploring things that you're not an expert in, good, rather than bad, as that's how you learn new things? Potentially, but that's not what "sophomoric" means. It's roughly the intersection of overconfident and immature.

Ah, gotcha, I didn't realize that sophomore was an insult - I just thought it meant you were a student

It is in reference to sophomore year as the second year of study—being like a kid who has studied a bit and fancies that they now know a lot. But "sophomore" itself doesn't have the negative connotation.

Re: Ask HN: Where can you safely ask beginner-level questions online in 2023?

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah, gotcha, I didn't realize that sophomore was an insult - I just thought it meant you were a student

It is in reference to sophomore year as the second year of study—being like a kid who has studied a bit and fancies that they now know a lot. But "sophomore" itself doesn't have the negative connotation.

Yeah, I get that, I just didn't realize that being a beginner in a particular field of study was a bad thing or something to be frowned upon.

If there's a trope about people new to a particular field being overconfident in what they know, maybe it's just human nature rather than a fatal character flaw, or sign of immaturity.

(i.e. since you'll likely have the same sense of overconfidence the next time you try something new, or work towards mastering a particular skill rather than that overconfidence only ever coming up once or twice in your entire life)

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Besides chatgpt, you’re expected to do your own research before asking. Stable communities may be unwelcoming to this because newbie questions are repetitive and tedious to answer thoroughly, even assuming no diligence issues. For example, if you google your cycling question as is, there’s a whole results page on that matter. There’s a lot of detailed youtube videos for the same query. It’s hard to even imagine a question today that could be low-informed and at the same time unanswered. And personally I always hated waiting and also the mockery you described. The latter is a bad manner, but the ones who respond first also tend to be the “less busy”, so adjust your expectations here.

Basically before chatgpt the answer was “web search”.

Re: Ask HN: Where can you safely ask beginner-level questions online in 2023?

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post #3

Honestly ChatGPT is really good for this. You can ask stupid questions all day and the more basic they are, the more likely it is to know the answers. I use it all the time to get a basic understanding of topics that I know nothing about.

Honestly, I probably ask ChatGPT 3-10 "stupid questions" a day. Yesterday, I asked ChatGPT which file formats are most popular for storing knowledge graphs in flatfiles, and loved that I didn't have to spend the remainder of the afternoon apologizing for being as dumb as an apple or an egg. I wonder if my main problem is that I don't know the level at which most people are at, or aim to be at before asking questions,…

... and loved that I didn't have to spend the remainder of the afternoon apologizing for being as dumb as an apple or an egg.

The unfriendly people out there is just bad people. Real experts don't get angry at newbies, don't tell you that your question is wrong. Answers are wrong, questions aren't. Someone giving you a rude answer has probably something very wrong going on in his life and needs to feel smart at others' expense.

Unfortunately this behaviour has generalized. I've been trying to ask questions in unfamiliar areas and it's easier to educate myself than asking for help online.

Re: Ask HN: Where can you safely ask beginner-level questions online in 2023?

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is in reference to sophomore year as the second year of study—being like a kid who has studied a bit and fancies that they now know a lot. But "sophomore" itself doesn't have the negative connotation.

Yeah, I get that, I just didn't realize that being a beginner in a particular field of study was a bad thing or something to be frowned upon. If there's a trope about people new to a particular field being overconfident in what they know, maybe it's just human nature rather than a fatal character flaw, or sign of immaturity. (i.e. since you'll likely have the same sense of overconfidence the next time you try somethi…

>I just didn't realize that being a beginner in a particular field of study was a bad thing or something to be frowned upon.

It isn't really. Novice, for example, doesn't have negative connotations. The other thing sophomores have going for them is that they're typically teenagers or barely not, and an adult not having grown up generally does have negative connotations.

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I get that, I just didn't realize that being a beginner in a particular field of study was a bad thing or something to be frowned upon. If there's a trope about people new to a particular field being overconfident in what they know, maybe it's just human nature rather than a fatal character flaw, or sign of immaturity. (i.e. since you'll likely have the same sense of overconfidence the next time you try somethi…

>I just didn't realize that being a beginner in a particular field of study was a bad thing or something to be frowned upon. It isn't really. Novice, for example, doesn't have negative connotations. The other thing sophomores have going for them is that they're typically teenagers or barely not, and an adult not having grown up generally does have negative connotations.

Thanks for the insights!
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