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Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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Re: Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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I wonder how many people gave kudos to the post by mistake? I know I did and there's no way to remove the kudos you gave afterwards. User actions should be a click not a hover.

He's already received complaints and sort of laughed them away: http://dcurt.is/unkudo Personally I think it's bad UX, but what do I know; I'm not Dustin Curtis.

I have a ton of respect for Mr. Curtis, but he's utterly and completely wrong on the issue. It's not a "serious" thing, just like calling someone a mean name isn't necessarily a "serious" thing, but both kind of make you a dick.

Re: Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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I wonder how many people gave kudos to the post by mistake? I know I did and there's no way to remove the kudos you gave afterwards. User actions should be a click not a hover.

He's already received complaints and sort of laughed them away: http://dcurt.is/unkudo Personally I think it's bad UX, but what do I know; I'm not Dustin Curtis.

It's definitely bad UX. Curtis tries to brush away criticism with his claim that the "kudos" number is "an otherwise meaningless number," but this argument is fatally flawed. Plenty of things that human beings use for social signaling are, when removed from context, technically "meaningless", but within context they can hold plenty of meaning. In the case of Curtis's website, the "Kudos" counter is implied to display a count of voluntary approval. By essentially tricking users into incrementing the count, Curtis violates this expectation, which is why everyone feels "cheated" by it. Subsequent visitors to the site who don't realize the counter has been gamed may take it as an indicator of how many people enjoyed the article, when in fact the numbers are inflated by other users against their will. This is not only terrible UX, but bordering on outright deceit.

In a world dominated by social media and ubiquitous "Like" counters, for someone to brush off a Kudos count as "an otherwise meaningless number" is either an incredible display of naivety or straight-up bullshit.

Re: Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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Awesome. Beat me to it. I treat my writing the same way: like fruit on tree, adding to it slowly until it ripens. How can I get an invite?

Be creative, intelligent, and witty. And a person.

And, of course, you should follow dcurtis on Twitter _here_.

Re: Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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He has "the eye" for design, though... everything looks effortless and kinda great... unlike when I try to make a page look good (yes I read about Mark Boulton and grids and a visual hierarchy and spacing and baseline and rhythm and UX but it doesn't do miracles...)

Re: Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't laugh but I found that incredibly arrogant and pathetic.

Pathetic? It perfectly accomplishes my goal: you'll remember it. (Edit: Sigh. Now I remember why I have a rule of not commenting on Hacker News anymore.)

Remember what?

Re: Codename: Svbtle by Dustin Curtis

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's already received complaints and sort of laughed them away: http://dcurt.is/unkudo Personally I think it's bad UX, but what do I know; I'm not Dustin Curtis.

It's definitely bad UX. Curtis tries to brush away criticism with his claim that the "kudos" number is "an otherwise meaningless number," but this argument is fatally flawed. Plenty of things that human beings use for social signaling are, when removed from context, technically "meaningless", but within context they can hold plenty of meaning. In the case of Curtis's website, the "Kudos" counter is implied to display…

While I agree, my complaint with it is even simpler: hit refresh and you can ostensibly keep adding kudos without limit. If that's not the case, then it's a UI problem because it doesn't tell you as much. If it is the case, then it certainly removes whatever meaning it has the moment someone starts inflating the count.
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