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TEMU Is Cleverly Hidden Spyware That Poses an Urgent Security Threat to U.S.

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Re: TEMU Is Cleverly Hidden Spyware That Poses an Urgent Security Threat to U.S.

#61

Why would temu try be spyware any more than google is spyware? I feel like doing something abnormally super sketchy is too high risk for them given how much stuff they sell and how much money they on their brand.

Umm, BECAUSE CHINA. FFS

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A bit off topic, but this website has some of the most draconian TOS I've ever seen > You agree that the information on this website is copyrighted, and you therefore agree not to distribute this information (whether the downloaded _le, copies / images / reproductions, or the link to these _les) in any manner other than by providing the following link: http://GRIZZLYREPORTS.COM So this HN submission is in violation o…

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#63

A few thoughts. I’d honestly estimate 20% of the ads I see on websites now are TEMU. I’ve never clicked on one, and will never sign up. If they stop advertising the ad market will feel the waves. The products being advertised to me are WILDLY irrelevant. It feels like they’re just shooting a shotgun into the air. It looks like they’re selling only the cheapest stuff, like cutting the middleperson of the FIVE CAPITAL…

Sorry you feel that way. I’ve been declared the “Chosen One for Massachusetts” by Temu!

Damn… okay if they give me an award like that maybe I in fact would be all in!

Re: TEMU Is Cleverly Hidden Spyware That Poses an Urgent Security Threat to U.S.

#64
What are the oh-so-deep discounts you guys see, that could justify that $30 figure. I mean, I'm seeing the same stuff from Aliexpress, at about the same price, with free shipping. Just another chinese marketplace like banggood, dhgate, etc. Or am I missing some crazy subsidy because I'm not from the US?

Re: TEMU Is Cleverly Hidden Spyware That Poses an Urgent Security Threat to U.S.

#65
post #42

> TEMU is estimated ( Link ) to be losing $30 per order. Its ad spending and shipping costs (1-2 weeks from China, expedited to U.S. delivery) are astronomical. One is left wondering how this business could ever be profitable. This has literally been every startup in SV for the last 15 years - aggressively lose money aquiring users when new and then when you've killed the competition, start making money. The only thi…

This is chinese government subsidizing youth unemployment.

My 60yo mother gets messaged every day on wechat from young Chinese ppl asking her to buy stuff on temu, they're all unemployed otherwise.

Re: TEMU Is Cleverly Hidden Spyware That Poses an Urgent Security Threat to U.S.

#66

Is it me or is this an over the top not very trust worthy article designed to move the stock market?

It's a market research firm, probably also a hedge fund that takes a short position specifically before posting these articles to make money on a short position. (See also Muddy Waters ( https://www.muddywatersresearch.com/ ). So yes, it's designed to move the stock market. That doesn't mean it's wrong, though.

Obviously Temu is losing money to gain a foothold in the United States. I don't think anyone would dispute that and obviously they are a Chinese company and all large Chinese companies have ties to the Gov't. Claims that it is spyware seem really over the top though.

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post #54
post #42

> TEMU is estimated ( Link ) to be losing $30 per order. Its ad spending and shipping costs (1-2 weeks from China, expedited to U.S. delivery) are astronomical. One is left wondering how this business could ever be profitable. This has literally been every startup in SV for the last 15 years - aggressively lose money aquiring users when new and then when you've killed the competition, start making money. The only thi…

> This has literally been every startup in SV for the last 15 years That is literally not true. > But I stand by my previous statement that literally nothing in this article is actual evidence I read the article. Some hand-wavey bits, yes, and some (probably) legal-cautious phrasing that you highlighted (eg the 'we believe' qualifier), but overall I find the evidence they've laid out to be highly compelling. What evi…

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Re: TEMU Is Cleverly Hidden Spyware That Poses an Urgent Security Threat to U.S.

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A bit off topic, but this website has some of the most draconian TOS I've ever seen > You agree that the information on this website is copyrighted, and you therefore agree not to distribute this information (whether the downloaded _le, copies / images / reproductions, or the link to these _les) in any manner other than by providing the following link: http://GRIZZLYREPORTS.COM So this HN submission is in violation o…

And also the button for not accepting it does nothing lol

used to link to drudge report before he sold it

Re: TEMU Is Cleverly Hidden Spyware That Poses an Urgent Security Threat to U.S.

#70
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How did they even get the android.permission.INSTALL_PACKAGES permission approved on the play store? Google clearly states that: To use this permission, your app’s core functionality must include: Sending or receiving app packages, AND Enabling user-initiated installation of app packages. If your app does not meet the requirements for acceptable use below, you must remove it from your app's manifest in order to compl…

It doesn't get them via the play store, you can see the app permissions here (see "About this app ->", then under "Permissions" click "view details": https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.einnovatio...

I never said that it got them via the play store. If an application has that permission in the manifest it should get rejected by Google if they don’t conform to their use cases.

They’re free to publish the APK themselves if they want tho

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