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Grindr Loses Almost Half Its Staff on 2-Day RTO Requirement

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Post by lowmagnet »

mrguyorama wrote: post #167
Animats wrote: post #142

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> The Grindr data is essentially a blackmail gold mine. More than that. It's leaked before.[1] Grindr data was used to catch a senior US Catholic official: "... an analysis of app data signals correlated to Burrill’s mobile device shows the priest also visited gay bars and private residences while using a location-based hookup app in numerous cities from 2018 to 2020, even while traveling on assignment for the U.S. b…

Amazing how quickly they solve the "problem" when it involves completely legal consensual adult activity, compared to when it's a YOUNG boy

I'm pretty sure the Church was just doing damage control for a vow breaker.

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Post by gnicholas »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #234
vuln wrote: post #212

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Do you have insider knowledge of the _other factors_ you _think_ is more likely the cause of revenue loss? Isn’t almost all of twitters revenue pre paid blue check, advertising? Where else are they generating income? Wasn’t twitter losing money before? Has twitter ever been profitable? I’ve linked to proof of boycotts and the ADLs position in convincing advertisers to drop twitter due to the ADLs “research.” You prov…

You've proved that the ADL is calling for an advertising boycott, which is a 1st amendment protected right. You haven't proven anything in regards to the effectiveness of that action. Here's some vetted research from reputable institutions unconnected to any boycotts showing a demonstrable increase in hate speech on twitter https://arxiv.org/pdf/2304.04129.pdf . I don't have insider knowledge, but I would be perfectl…

> You've proved that the ADL is calling for an advertising boycott, which is a 1st amendment protected right.

The First Amendment is somewhat beside the point, since Elon is alleging that they are defaming him/Twitter. Defamatory speech is not protected by the First Amendment. So it's totally fine to call for a boycott — but totally actionable to call for a boycott using defamatory statements.

It will be difficult for Elon to prove defamation, since he is a public figure, of course.

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Post by toomuchtodo »

r00fus wrote: post #233
giantg2 wrote: post #232

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Again, that's a nice rule. But how is that enforced? It still has to be proven that RTO is intended to union bust. That's the tough part.

To my understanding if 50% (a majority) of the employees signs up (ie, union cards) for the union prior to any vote, if the employer takes a union-busting act, the union is automatically legitimized and the employer must negotiate with them. Most major corporations are all already doing union-deterrence (not illegal) as operating practice so they likely won't see an impact unless there is a black swan event that caus…

Your understanding is correct.

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Post by wyclif »

Apocryphon wrote: post #121
morkalork wrote: post #100

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Also kind of insane. 1-2 years? In any large codebase or platform, it takes a year to become familiar with and touch a decent portion of it. Also, talk about never having to live with the concequences of decisions you've made in terms of long term support and maintenance. But I guess these are all rockstar developers doing the hopping around so that's not really their concern is it.

It's usually closer to 2 years than to 1.

I would say it's better to do 2-3 years early on as a young employee. Older, more experienced tech people tend to have longer tenures as they gain years of experience.

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Post by jmspring »

hgomersall wrote: post #173
jmspring wrote: post #160

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A good cat sitter is hard to find. The wife and I have told ours, if we move, she is moving with us.

Is this a serious reply? I mean, don't cats just ignore everyone? What do cat sitters do apart from spoon food from the packet into the bowl, replenish the water and occasionally tickle the cats tummy?

It actually is. Cats vary in their personalities. Each of my cats (including my semi-feral cat -- abandoned during the Dixie Fire, very slowly trying to socialize him) wants human interaction. Yes, they are ok being left to their own devices for days on end, but there are fewer issues and they are clearly happier if they get regular interaction.

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Post by hollerith »

chinchilla2020 wrote: post #113
wvenable wrote: post #13

> Staffing is the “single biggest cost” after fees paid to app distribution platforms like Apple Inc. and Alphabet Inc.’s Google, according to Arison. This is a hilarious quote. It's a software company! What other major costs are there besides the staff to make and manage the software? I think I even find it a little disturbing that fees paid to Apple and Google are higher than salary paid to staff.

Tech is special because the fixed costs are extremely low compared to other industries. In manufacturing you have to make those massive interest payments on capital every month, which dwarf your labor costs by a wide margin.

Fixed cost in accounting means all the costs except for the cost of making the next sale, which is called marginal cost or variable cost; so for example the marginal cost of a sale of IntelliJ is the cost of accepting payment, delivering the software somehow (i.e., mostly server costs these days) and support costs.

Marginal cost of a car in contrast is the cost of the materials that go into the car plus the cost of any parts or subassemblies not made by the car company.

So, your "tech is special because the fixed costs are extremely low compared" is false.

Programmer salaries are fixed costs because if you suddenly start selling twice as many licenses each month, there's no need to hire more programmers or have your existing programmer work twice as much.

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Post by bsder »

factorymoo wrote: post #49
mjhay wrote: post #6

Not sure that it's such a great business decision to lose almost half your staff, and probably moreso the higher-performing ones with other options. I'm guessing that this was intended to reduce the headcount without paying severance, which sounds attractive to the average MBA brain with zero ability to think through long-term consequences.

> " with zero ability to think through long-term consequences" The median tenure in tech is one to two years before moving on to another team or company [1]. You need to say that what you care about is long term, but that's now how we're compensated (read: incentivised). Plus you're not there to see it anyways so there are really very little incentives to think long term. [1] some googling but couldn't find a great s…

> The median tenure in tech is one to two years before moving on to another team or company [1].

Mostly only true in Silly Valley.

In non-tech hubs, the tenures tend to be longer.

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Post by n8cpdx »

isykt wrote: post #201
00deadbeef wrote: post #176

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What Seattle-based startup are you all cryptically referring to?

Sniffies. It’s far better than Grindr in almost every way. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sniffies

I tried it out, it is a very different app from Grindr and despite the very low floor I’m not sure I agree it is better. Totally disrespectful of the web platform and the UX is not great. But if you are looking for quick and/or anonymous sex exclusively it appears to be best of breed.

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Post by TheCleric »

gnicholas wrote: post #242
dghlsakjg wrote: post #234

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You've proved that the ADL is calling for an advertising boycott, which is a 1st amendment protected right. You haven't proven anything in regards to the effectiveness of that action. Here's some vetted research from reputable institutions unconnected to any boycotts showing a demonstrable increase in hate speech on twitter https://arxiv.org/pdf/2304.04129.pdf . I don't have insider knowledge, but I would be perfectl…

> You've proved that the ADL is calling for an advertising boycott, which is a 1st amendment protected right. The First Amendment is somewhat beside the point, since Elon is alleging that they are defaming him/Twitter. Defamatory speech is not protected by the First Amendment. So it's totally fine to call for a boycott — but totally actionable to call for a boycott using defamatory statements. It will be difficult fo…

It will be virtually impossible since none of the "defamatory" claims fall under matters of (legal) fact. In fact, unless Elon really wants to burn more money, I doubt he ever files an actual lawsuit and this is all bluster. Then again I'd probably lose my shirt betting agains Elon doing foolish things.

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Post by asveikau »

dwaltrip wrote: post #238
asveikau wrote: post #220

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I'm not even implying the opposite, I'm merely saying it is a cost.

>> Unless a company is doing a computationally expensive thing [...] then the opex should be an inconsequential amount > I don't think that has much bearing on my question of ranking server costs with other costs Take another look at the comment thread. It seems to me there is some sort of miscommunication or misunderstanding.

Oh. I missed the word inconsequential.

I don't think it's inconsequential at all once you have a substantial user base, especially since increasingly people tend to use resource hog frameworks and overpay for AWS and other cloud services.

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