Microsoft will assume liability for legal copyright risks of Copilot

Post by politician » Thu, Sep 07, 2023, 10:15 PM UTC

StewardMcOy wrote: post #191

Are there any actual details on this? I get that this is a blog post, but the only links I see on the page are to other blog posts. It leaves a lot of questions. Is this blog post a legally enforceable contract? Is Microsoft specifically indemnifying all users of Copilot against claims of copyright infringement that arise from use of Copilot? The blog post says that "there are important conditions to this program", a…

Post by ryanwaggoner » Thu, Sep 07, 2023, 10:19 PM UTC

dh2022 wrote: post #240

londons_explore wrote: post #238

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I suspect Microsoft would earn more money by doing this. Their own engineers would get productivity boosts - with copilot already being familiar with data structures, code style, etc. would be a big boost to accuracy. But also, third party code would end up being more similar. Code style of the whole world would be pushed towards 'Microsoft style', which probably makes hiring easier, less training time for engineers,…

You are assuming Microsoft code base is superior to Linux / Git / MySql / whatever else is in github right now. That is a .... big assumption. And if Microsoft's code ends up influencing the rest of the world code that would be a .... big downside.

Post by onemoresoop » Thu, Sep 07, 2023, 10:23 PM UTC

Eliah_Lakhin wrote: post #230

tremon wrote: post #194

Let Microsoft first publish a Copilot model that's trained on the internal codebases of Azure, Windows and Office. That's the only way Microsoft can convince me that they truly believe Copilot is non-infringing technology.

Interestingly, would the Copilot become better after such training...

Post by mbreese » Thu, Sep 07, 2023, 10:25 PM UTC

tick_tock_tick wrote: post #193

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #167

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> It's likely that generative AI in general will be deemed fair use Everybody seems to be saying this, but I really don't think there's even 50% chance of it happening. Google books was fair use because it was a public benefit and did not take away from publishers or authors, to the contrary it helped people find their works. Compare generative AI which extracts the essence of people's works and recreates similar wor…

> Everybody seems to be saying this, but I really don't think there's even 50% chance of it happening. That's true it's probably 99% plus it happening or at-least that's the conclusion that the experts and lawyers hired to help evaluate AI startup valuations are coming too. Hired by banks, venture funds, short selling shops, etc plenty of people who don't depending on it being ok to make money. > "yes we're using cop…

Post by blackhole » Thu, Sep 07, 2023, 10:28 PM UTC

giantg2 wrote: post #248

dh2022 wrote: post #240

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You are assuming Microsoft code base is superior to Linux / Git / MySql / whatever else is in github right now. That is a .... big assumption. And if Microsoft's code ends up influencing the rest of the world code that would be a .... big downside.

Without a myriad of dumbasses like me being able to commit to Microsoft vs Github, I'd assume Microsoft's average is better than Github's.