It's unclear to me from the article or docs: does this release of Mojo support GPU?
Mojo is available for local download
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#22I've had high hopes for this project since its announcement, but until it's open-source, I'm not investing any time in it. That's the only announcement I care about
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#23Still not open-source it looks like [2]. I'm not willing to create an account right now. Can someone who has an account post what the pricing looks like if any? I'd also be curious what other agreements you have to make other than the terms of service[1] you agree to when making an account. [1] https://modular.com/terms [2] https://github.com/modularml/mojo/blob/5823e1d9d176916c236c5...
Python is slow, but it's not "invest time building software with a closed source language from a new company" slow.
Yeah, and I assume in the future Python will get its own JIT or AOT compiler, if people really demand it. Most Python for scientific programming is just a higher level glue code for the C++ underneath.
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#24Who would risk using a closed-source language? I know some academic groups using Matlab, and I know some engineering companies use tools like Simulink, but these are very established products. I don't think I could even get sign-off for using a new closed language for a work project...
I agree. It's not "here" until it's open-source.
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#25> Mojo is now available for local download – beginning with Linux systems, and adding Mac and Windows in coming releases.
sure would be nice if this was front and center on the actual website; the download page requires the user create an account in order to even find out that linux is the only supported platform at present.
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#26Who would risk using a closed-source language? I know some academic groups using Matlab, and I know some engineering companies use tools like Simulink, but these are very established products. I don't think I could even get sign-off for using a new closed language for a work project...
I believe K is still quite popular at various banks.
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#27Still not open-source it looks like [2]. I'm not willing to create an account right now. Can someone who has an account post what the pricing looks like if any? I'd also be curious what other agreements you have to make other than the terms of service[1] you agree to when making an account. [1] https://modular.com/terms [2] https://github.com/modularml/mojo/blob/5823e1d9d176916c236c5...
Python is slow, but it's not "invest time building software with a closed source language from a new company" slow.
I really do wonder who they're targeting as a paying customer. What dev/team is all of these things
1. Getting paid to work on ML to such an extent that perf is important (enough)
2. Comfortable leaving the warm confines of python and a huge ecosystem
3. Willing to learn a brand new, closed source, beta maturity language
4. Does inference on CPU
5. Willing to run their inference pipeline behind some FaaS layer because that's how I'm assuming modular plans to make money? The alternative is an honest to goodness licensed compiler and that seems even more farfetched (though I guess not beyond the realm of possibility).
What I wouldn't give to be in the room when they're pitching VCs because they've managed to raise a lot of money for what looks like a TAM of like 5 people.
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#28Who would risk using a closed-source language? I know some academic groups using Matlab, and I know some engineering companies use tools like Simulink, but these are very established products. I don't think I could even get sign-off for using a new closed language for a work project...
I believe K is still quite popular at various banks.
Probably, but again K is a language from 1993. I think closed-source languages are relics from a time it was more normal and some are so established they're still accepted, but new closed-source languages feel out of touch. Can you think of any new ones that caught on? I really can't to be honest!
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#29Really excited about Mojo, but not very excited about being fully closed source. I understand not going OSS right now if there's still a lot of churn expected, but I think that can be worked around:
1. Just because something is OSS doesn't mean the public is entitled to defining the roadmap or design decisions. If you set working norms up front and make it clear who has decision-making power and why, people will decide for themselves if they want to engage or not. A lot of frustration in OSS comes from lack of clear boundaries around how and why something evolves the way it does.
2. You can meet in the middle and be source-open. Don't use an OSI license, don't guarantee that you'll look at a community contribution, and don't guarantee that you'll engage on a particular issue. People can still benefit from seeing the source and deciding on if it's the right tool for them.
I know a lot of folks rag on "corporate controlled OSS", but there's a lot of examples of that motion working really well for products. I hope Mojo does this eventually.
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#30Is what they have achieved really that ... magical, that it needs to be a closed source project? I don't know much about python, but I suspect if someone watches the demo the methodology behind what they're doing is probably clear no? I don't understand the purpose of close sourcing it unless there really is some kind of moat.