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The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by hulitu »

mikece wrote: post #3

I'm curious: for how many people is this news? For those more inquiring you should look into the Smith-Mundt Act, which makes it illegal for the US Government to directly propagandize the American people; it was effectively repealed in 2012.

> which makes it illegal for the US Government to directly propagandize the American people

That was never a problem. All american propaganda outlets are sponsored by NGOs.

The main advantage is that propaganda suddenly looks like your local news.

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by JPws_Prntr_Fngr »

doubleg72 wrote: post #141
JPws_Prntr_Fngr wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ahead on virtually any measure of material or social success, and they further consolidate their advantages by functioning multi-generationally, which means that no, they don't die quite like everybody else. See for example: the Bush dynasty vs the typical "successful" American family. Do you know anyone benefiting from their great-grandfather's Nazi money, plus their grandfather's CIA/oil cartel black ops + presiden…

Thanks for reminding me to grab the tinfoil hat!

Don't forget the They Live glasses!

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by thesaintlives »

ceejayoz wrote: post #56
thesaintlives wrote: post #51

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I can't tell if you're serious or sarcastic, but a great illustration of the point. It's very possible for a disease to kill a million people in the US and for some folks to not have it kill any of their family and friends personally. Someone who lived in NYC in March 2020 would likely have had a very different experience than someone in rural Minnesota, for example.

You mean like the flu or something? So basically you are saying in a completely normal course of events and that is my point. Absolutely no reason for mass panic etc. etc..

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by thesaintlives »

aardshark wrote: post #125
free_glamorgan wrote: post #115

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I have a working hypothesis that a very large number of people don't personally know anyone who has died of Covid, except maybe for an elderly relative and "they were getting on a bit anyway". It's true of me and anyone else I've had this conversation with.

Do you live in a first world Western country and is your social circle comprised of people who do the same? In my experience when you go outside of that circle you start finding people who have personally experienced loss from COVID very quickly.

I found completely the opposite. I spoke with all my Indian colleagues. Covid? What's that they said. No problem here Sir..

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by free_glamorgan »

thesaintlives wrote: post #164
aardshark wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you live in a first world Western country and is your social circle comprised of people who do the same? In my experience when you go outside of that circle you start finding people who have personally experienced loss from COVID very quickly.

I found completely the opposite. I spoke with all my Indian colleagues. Covid? What's that they said. No problem here Sir..

Covid seems to be, physically and emotionally, a primarily Western disease. And as bad as the fallout has been where I live, it seems to have been particularly damaging in the US (on both of those counts).

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Post by Fervicus »

JPws_Prntr_Fngr wrote: post #160
carapace wrote: post #156

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The comment you're replying to is technically correct, but completely misses the point.

You would have had to make a cogent point for me to have missed it.

I think their point was more philosophical. They can be rich, but they'll never be happy sort of a thing.

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by wmeredith »

ndndkejwndn wrote: post #120

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Disney's_World_War_II_pro... It’s probably safe to assume literally all mainstream media is propaganda

Agreed. My father is a full on MAGA hat wearing hater of the “liberal media” which I find to be a laughable phrase. The mainstream media in this country is controlled by what? Three or four corporations that have a massive incentive to keep things just the way they are. That they would present any sort of liberal viewpoint that’s more than skin deep is utter fantasy.

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by mikrotikker »

wmeredith wrote: post #167
ndndkejwndn wrote: post #120

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Disney's_World_War_II_pro... It’s probably safe to assume literally all mainstream media is propaganda

Agreed. My father is a full on MAGA hat wearing hater of the “liberal media” which I find to be a laughable phrase. The mainstream media in this country is controlled by what? Three or four corporations that have a massive incentive to keep things just the way they are. That they would present any sort of liberal viewpoint that’s more than skin deep is utter fantasy.

Three or four companies owned by companies that also own pharmaceutical and weapons companies among others so everything is tailored to protect the shareholders and you lose any semblance of real journalism.

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Post by mikrotikker »

Julesman wrote: post #64
mcpackieh wrote: post #53

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Before the JFK assassination, 'conspiracy theory' literally meant a theory about a criminal conspiracy. In the case of the JFK assassination, all theories that were counter to the official lone-wolf theory were conspiracy theories, theories about multiple people being involved in the assassination are categorically conspiracy theories while a lone-wolf theory involves no conspiring. Due to this, the term 'conspiracy…

I know what it means better than most. I also know that it's application as a means of establishing liberal identity as opposed to basic historical facts is a long time feature of our empire. Liberals punch down at leftists. Someone questions the motives of our empire and invariably some liberal eager to establish their mainstream credibility shows up to argue with skeptics and side with industry.

God damn. I guess we see RFK Jr future.

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Post by BashiBazouk »

dudul wrote: post #130
BashiBazouk wrote: post #92

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My family had a friend who was an officer in the Marines. In the Vietnam war he was one of the people who went in and burned villages, you know the bad stuff. When Apocalypse Now came out he got a copy on Beta-max, brought it over and insisted all his friends watch it. He said it was the only movie that really captured the insanity of that war.

Hum, I don't know, FMJ does a pretty good job too I think.

True, but almost a decade late for the family friend to make his point and not mentioned in the parent comment...
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