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Mojo is available for local download

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Re: Mojo is available for local download

#11
post #9

Didn't try downloading the SDK yet, but in the playground, seems like the "Python superset" advertisement does not hold (trying to define a class gives "error: classes not implemented yet"). Great to see progress in this space but I think the real killer feature of Mojo would be to run any existing Python program and allow programmers to incrementally adopt Mojo's syntax for targeted optimizations, and seems like we'…

Something feels so... off about this. It's a closed source product (I think? I see no where to contribute) so I can imagine the need for walling off local dev tools until they're ready for prime time, but it doesn't even seem like they are ready. They'll have you sign up before downloading some blackbox SDK that half-implements a language that they pinky-promise they won't abandon and you have no recourse to recover if they do.

If their intent is to flesh out a basic product then open things up, then I take that back, but as of right now, they seem to be pitching it as "ready to go" based on the copy here. That's a lot of trust to put with them.

Re: Mojo is available for local download

#12
post #9

Didn't try downloading the SDK yet, but in the playground, seems like the "Python superset" advertisement does not hold (trying to define a class gives "error: classes not implemented yet"). Great to see progress in this space but I think the real killer feature of Mojo would be to run any existing Python program and allow programmers to incrementally adopt Mojo's syntax for targeted optimizations, and seems like we'…

I hope they at least target most / all the syntax at a minimum.

Re: Mojo is available for local download

#13
post #9

Didn't try downloading the SDK yet, but in the playground, seems like the "Python superset" advertisement does not hold (trying to define a class gives "error: classes not implemented yet"). Great to see progress in this space but I think the real killer feature of Mojo would be to run any existing Python program and allow programmers to incrementally adopt Mojo's syntax for targeted optimizations, and seems like we'…

Something feels so... off about this. It's a closed source product (I think? I see no where to contribute) so I can imagine the need for walling off local dev tools until they're ready for prime time, but it doesn't even seem like they are ready. They'll have you sign up before downloading some blackbox SDK that half-implements a language that they pinky-promise they won't abandon and you have no recourse to recover…

Yeah, when they first announced Mojo I thought it would take a lot of wind out of Julia's sails, but I'm starting to think that's not going to be the case. Title should probably be changed to "Mojo: It's kind'a, partly here"

Re: Mojo is available for local download

#14
post #2

Still not open-source it looks like [2]. I'm not willing to create an account right now. Can someone who has an account post what the pricing looks like if any? I'd also be curious what other agreements you have to make other than the terms of service[1] you agree to when making an account. [1] https://modular.com/terms [2] https://github.com/modularml/mojo/blob/5823e1d9d176916c236c5...

Python is slow, but it's not "invest time building software with a closed source language from a new company" slow.

Re: Mojo is available for local download

#15
post #9

Didn't try downloading the SDK yet, but in the playground, seems like the "Python superset" advertisement does not hold (trying to define a class gives "error: classes not implemented yet"). Great to see progress in this space but I think the real killer feature of Mojo would be to run any existing Python program and allow programmers to incrementally adopt Mojo's syntax for targeted optimizations, and seems like we'…

Ha, that is a substantial gap. I was expecting some issues with third party libraries, not a core part of the language missing.

Re: Mojo is available for local download

#16
post #9

Didn't try downloading the SDK yet, but in the playground, seems like the "Python superset" advertisement does not hold (trying to define a class gives "error: classes not implemented yet"). Great to see progress in this space but I think the real killer feature of Mojo would be to run any existing Python program and allow programmers to incrementally adopt Mojo's syntax for targeted optimizations, and seems like we'…

It’s a PyTorch superset and they aim to be a full python superset eventually

Re: Mojo is available for local download

#17
Who would risk using a closed-source language? I know some academic groups using Matlab, and I know some engineering companies use tools like Simulink, but these are very established products. I don't think I could even get sign-off for using a new closed language for a work project...

Re: Mojo is available for local download

#18
post #10

I wonder whether this will end up being a viable language for people who just want to write fast general purpose code with Python's syntax, and not write any AI/ML-related stuff.

Hard to say, as far as I can tell there's no networking libraries right now.

Re: Mojo is available for local download

#19

Who would risk using a closed-source language? I know some academic groups using Matlab, and I know some engineering companies use tools like Simulink, but these are very established products. I don't think I could even get sign-off for using a new closed language for a work project...

What if someone were to take away our Mojo?

Re: Mojo is available for local download

#20

Who would risk using a closed-source language? I know some academic groups using Matlab, and I know some engineering companies use tools like Simulink, but these are very established products. I don't think I could even get sign-off for using a new closed language for a work project...

What if someone were to take away our Mojo?

Oh, behave

Edit: Now I have Austin Powers stuck in my head when I see Mojo

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