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Grindr Loses Almost Half Its Staff on 2-Day RTO Requirement

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Re: Grindr Loses Almost Half Its Staff on 2-Day RTO Requirement

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Post by mrguyorama »

wvenable wrote: post #13

> Staffing is the “single biggest cost” after fees paid to app distribution platforms like Apple Inc. and Alphabet Inc.’s Google, according to Arison. This is a hilarious quote. It's a software company! What other major costs are there besides the staff to make and manage the software? I think I even find it a little disturbing that fees paid to Apple and Google are higher than salary paid to staff.

American Railroad ideology is that the most "efficient" railroad owns no track and runs no trains.

American businesses believe they should be able to spend zero money and yet still make all the profit.

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Post by ShakataGaNai »

monksy wrote: post #3
toomuchtodo wrote: post #2

https://archive.ph/pLUy9

Is it just me or are other people being denied archive/cloudfront pages due to the CDN capacha? Every time I complete the CAPTCHA it doesnt't leave that page.

Yes. I get the same. Infinite CAPTCHA. It's done that on several computers now. Even in private browsing mode, clear cookies, clear cache.

Re: Grindr Loses Almost Half Its Staff on 2-Day RTO Requirement

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

jstarfish wrote: post #126
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm guessing that this was intended to reduce the headcount without paying severance The employees were planning to unionize, and the RTO plan "conveniently" came up right at that time. These are pretty classic union-busting techniques. I'm actually pretty nervous for users from a security perspective. The Grindr data is essentially a blackmail gold mine - combine a ton of disgruntled employees with the loss of exp…

> I'm actually pretty nervous for users from a security perspective. The Grindr data is essentially a blackmail gold mine - combine a ton of disgruntled employees with the loss of expertise to maintain app security (which had a number of issues in the past), and I don't think it bodes well. This shouldn't change anything from an opsec perspective. Google itself will always have record of you having downloaded it to y…

If you think that "membership records" are the most damning thing that can be used for blackmail from Grindr, I can only surmise you've never used Grindr.

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Post by flutas »

ProfessorLayton wrote: post #157
flutas wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That Seattle based startup has also had some pretty damning security issues that, afaik have never been acknowledged publicly. Maybe I should do a write up about my experience getting IPs, hashed passwords and even moderation action notes blasted at me.

I'm unfamiliar with their issues and that is pretty damning, however, it's become clear that a web-based app that isn't bound by draconian puritan values is turning up the heat on them. Scruff has recently launched a web-based app separate from their main one as well.

Oh I agree. Web based is 100% the way forward with this type of app.

For some more details, they use a websocket for basically all interactions on the app, such as messages, online status, etc. They were blasting internal data into that websocket for some cases, which included IPs, Hashed and salted passwords, the salts for said passwords, user reports, private photos, emails... and a lot more such as ISP, user agent and verification codes.

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Post by mrguyorama »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #53
giantg2 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real question is will they do anything.

It's likely. https://prospect.org/labor/2023-08-28-bidens-nlrb-brings-wor... https://www.nlrb.gov/news-outreach/news-story/board-issues-d... https://www.nlrb.gov/news-outreach/news-story/national-labor...

That looks like a lot of marketing to me trying to shore up Biden's reputation with Union workers after he killed the railroad strike and left our necessary workers to the dogs.

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Post by core-utility »

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #87
philipov wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Office space costs /s

That would be hilarious, actually - but impossible, because it would make it the second biggest cost.

You mean the first biggest cost, if you don't account for the actual first biggest cost. /s

Re: Grindr Loses Almost Half Its Staff on 2-Day RTO Requirement

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Post by mrguyorama »

Animats wrote: post #142
jstarfish wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm actually pretty nervous for users from a security perspective. The Grindr data is essentially a blackmail gold mine - combine a ton of disgruntled employees with the loss of expertise to maintain app security (which had a number of issues in the past), and I don't think it bodes well. This shouldn't change anything from an opsec perspective. Google itself will always have record of you having downloaded it to y…

> The Grindr data is essentially a blackmail gold mine. More than that. It's leaked before.[1] Grindr data was used to catch a senior US Catholic official: "... an analysis of app data signals correlated to Burrill’s mobile device shows the priest also visited gay bars and private residences while using a location-based hookup app in numerous cities from 2018 to 2020, even while traveling on assignment for the U.S. b…

Amazing how quickly they solve the "problem" when it involves completely legal consensual adult activity, compared to when it's a YOUNG boy

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Post by konfusinomicon »

SamBam wrote: post #80
throaway920181 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That phrasing is obnoxious. Say it like it is - it's the "second biggest cost."

Paying my cat sitter is totally out of control! It's my single biggest cost, after my mortgage, food, utilities, travel, clothing, internet, entertainment, drugs, coffee, gas, and succulent plant collection.

pay them in drugs and profit!

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Post by klyrs »

rpgwaiter wrote: post #130
mc32 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are Craigslist or Ebay software companies? They obviously need software to run, but like Google who are mainly in the ad business, these people are in the matchmaking/social business not software business --unless they were to sell their software to other parties who were user/client-facing.

> are craigslist or eBay software companies Yes, obviously. What other market would they possibly be into, the only thing those companies do is make software

The only thing grindr does is make software. The "matchmaking service" is how people use that software. They don't have banks of matchmakers saying "on these boys would look cute together, let's introduce them."

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Post by meitham »

mrguyorama wrote: post #161
wvenable wrote: post #13

> Staffing is the “single biggest cost” after fees paid to app distribution platforms like Apple Inc. and Alphabet Inc.’s Google, according to Arison. This is a hilarious quote. It's a software company! What other major costs are there besides the staff to make and manage the software? I think I even find it a little disturbing that fees paid to Apple and Google are higher than salary paid to staff.

American Railroad ideology is that the most "efficient" railroad owns no track and runs no trains. American businesses believe they should be able to spend zero money and yet still make all the profit.

Welcome to synthetic financial products trading!
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