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Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom

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Post by wil421 »

Ennea wrote: post #28
wil421 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I sold my old 2080 at the right time and made $100 but I was out a graphics card for over a year. Sold my steam deck as well and only lost about $75. Due to kids I didnt have time to play it along with the switch and some desktop PC games. Check eBay prices and local Craigslist/FB market place.

Making $100 and not having a graphics card for over a year does not work out to "sold at the right time" for me somehow.

It’s impossible for me to game on 3 consoles due to time constraints. Juggling 2/3 (switch/deck) and switching 2/3 (switch/PC) a year later is not a big deal.

I had an intel CPU with an integrated GPU at the time and a laptop and servers at home.

Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom

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Post by [deleted] »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #66
epiccoleman wrote: post #34

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> Nintendo is scummy AF advertising/marketing to children and their constant abuse of fans for playing recreationally with IP. This is really not my experience. To my eye they don't seem to be engaged in the majority of the awful practices around marketing that are pervasive in tech today. As for the "constant abuse of fans" thing - is Nintendo really that different from any other company who has to protect their IP…

Also, this is Nintendo. Like it or not, and whether they like it or not, child friendly is their brand. Who’s to say, that if you allow one fan game, some pedophile won’t make their own fan game? And kids won’t start sending messages about how they appreciate his game? There isn’t one. Stop it before it can happen.

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Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom

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Post by cassianoleal »

mattl wrote: post #43
viraptor wrote: post #33

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There's nothing preventing them from serving recompiled versions from the store though, right? As long as the behaviour is the same, they could have two different versions behind the scenes for the first party games (Mario, Zelda).

Not sure how that would handle physical games? The cart just acts as a key and the game is downloaded?

~~~That's entirely wrong. You can play the game straight out of the cartridge with no Internet connection. Of course, without patches.~~~

Edit: Sorry, I misread your comment. :|

Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom

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Post by KETHERCORTEX »

mattl wrote: post #43
viraptor wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's nothing preventing them from serving recompiled versions from the store though, right? As long as the behaviour is the same, they could have two different versions behind the scenes for the first party games (Mario, Zelda).

Not sure how that would handle physical games? The cart just acts as a key and the game is downloaded?

Probably yes. In case of modern Xbox backwards compatibility with 360 and original, it works more or less this way.

Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom

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Post by hbn »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #61
kemayo wrote: post #52

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The GameCube was particularly tragic, because it had a genuinely fantastic game library.

Indeed. Hopefully Nintendo releases more games from it on the Switch, but the rumor mill and message from Dolphin is that GameCube games are often harder to emulate on the Switch than Wii games. Data miners also reported that Super Mario Sunshine had the most tech work done to get it running compared to 64 or Galaxy . But if you are Nintendo, the Wii and the Switch are about equally successful phenomenons. That didn’…

> like the Wii U launching with Mario Kart 8

It wasn't a launch title, it came like a year and a half after the Wii U's launch. And even though it was pretty good, it was an exception. The Wii U really didn't have much in terms of killer apps. Nintendo was releasing some very bland stuff in the early-to-mid 2010s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxvmrmOHRsU

Plus they botched the marketing horribly between the name "Wii U" and never showing the console itself, only the gamepad, making many consumers believe it was just a Wii accessory they didn't want.

Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom

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Post by tgaede »

unpopularopp wrote: post #70

I'm curious: how senior you have to be at a company to attend a demo like this? Probably it was shown for the AAA industry right, like EA, Ubisoft, Epic etc.? Do they invite competitors as well? Microsoft has games on the Switch. So obviously there is an NDA but is it the C-suite or the senior engineers who can have a look?

In the past, the audience is game studio heads and their producers to get the ideas flowing on what the novel capabilities of the new system are and how they can design games for it. Maybe some top engineering folks. Also for nintendo to get feedback from studios - "ah, yes, we've been thinking of doing augmented reality and it would be really cool if the camera had X feature so we can do Y in our game". AAA for sure, likely most indie shops. In the past direct competitors would not be invited.

Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom

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Post by r00fus »

mbork_pl wrote: post #27

Honest question from a videogame noob who considers buying a console for someone as a Christmas gift: does that mean that there is a chance of getting a Switch 1 (new, not used) cheaper soon?

What's wrong with used? Craigslist is best as you can ostensibly ask seller to demo it for you briefly before you buy and it usually comes with their game catalog as well.

Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom

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Post by mbork_pl »

r00fus wrote: post #77
mbork_pl wrote: post #27

Honest question from a videogame noob who considers buying a console for someone as a Christmas gift: does that mean that there is a chance of getting a Switch 1 (new, not used) cheaper soon?

What's wrong with used? Craigslist is best as you can ostensibly ask seller to demo it for you briefly before you buy and it usually comes with their game catalog as well.

Nothing, but I'd prefer to buy a new one as a gift. Also, the second-hand market is probably way smaller here in Poland, and shipping from the US is pretty expensive.

Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom

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Post by theshrike79 »

darklycan51 wrote: post #24

I know console people won't like this but I wish the went back to two consoles, I hate how big the switch is, all my life I bought nintendo portables only cause they were small and I could bring in my pocket...

If you want something pocketable, look into what Anbernic and Retroid are doing.

They have, for example, OG Gameboy sized consoles with enough power to emulate everyting up to about PS1/Gamecube: https://anbernic.com/products/rg35xx

Re: Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom

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Post by hospitalJail »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #66
epiccoleman wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Nintendo is scummy AF advertising/marketing to children and their constant abuse of fans for playing recreationally with IP. This is really not my experience. To my eye they don't seem to be engaged in the majority of the awful practices around marketing that are pervasive in tech today. As for the "constant abuse of fans" thing - is Nintendo really that different from any other company who has to protect their IP…

Also, this is Nintendo. Like it or not, and whether they like it or not, child friendly is their brand. Who’s to say, that if you allow one fan game, some pedophile won’t make their own fan game? And kids won’t start sending messages about how they appreciate his game? There isn’t one. Stop it before it can happen.

Oh man I can come up with an even scarier hypothetical:

What if North Korea starts using Nintendo characters to create a religion and uses it to overthrow governments?!?!

Well since North Korea isn't bound by IP laws, its best to dissolve Nintendo to keep everyone safe.

Hey, if you like Nintendo, you support North Korean Indoctrination.

Or I have a different idea, what if a 12 year old kid learned programming to make a pokemon knockoff and donated the money to curing cancer.

I like my hypotheticals more than yours. Which do you like?

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