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Ask HN: YC company copied our product, what can we do?

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Re: Ask HN: YC company copied our product, what can we do?

#11

Stop talking about it and call a law firm. Your local Bar Association will be able to give you a list of firms/attorneys that practice in this area, or your existing lawyer may have a recommendation. Many law firms will give you a short consultation for free. Bring a succinct written summary of the facts with you that briefly describes the product, how you discovered the issue, and what you found when you investigate…

Pretty wild how much "just execute better" posts there are, one wonders if its the common response to a situation like this, from this community, and what that says about trustworthiness in general of YC "founder" types!

Re: Ask HN: YC company copied our product, what can we do?

#12
Very sorry to hear this. Did you have any copyright to the apis or the code? Or even a ToS on your slack channel? IANAL so wouldn't hurt to speak to a lawyer.

Also sorry I am not good reading the signals - why would being a female founder make you angrier than a non female founder? Id be angry as F too if a clone of my hard work appeared out of no where!

Re: Ask HN: YC company copied our product, what can we do?

#14

Stop talking about it and call a law firm. Your local Bar Association will be able to give you a list of firms/attorneys that practice in this area, or your existing lawyer may have a recommendation. Many law firms will give you a short consultation for free. Bring a succinct written summary of the facts with you that briefly describes the product, how you discovered the issue, and what you found when you investigate…

> considering your competitors' employees already infiltrated your slack channel.

It was a public community slack channel. There may have been proprietary/protected information shared in there but in my naive opinion (NAL!) that wouldn't be protected by trade secrets if it was shared publicly. Some things could still be protected by copyright or trademark but it's pretty unlikely. It's possible copying the API could be infringing but Google v. Oracle[0] makes that a very uphill battle.

"Secret sauce" is highly valued by founders and product managers but IMHO it's generally overvalued and doesn't constitute a moat. For the most part, competitors are allowed to copy most things and leverage whatever other advantages they have over the original innovators.

0: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_LLC_v._Oracle_America,_....

Re: Ask HN: YC company copied our product, what can we do?

#15
Talk to a lawyer. Copying your API is possibly a copyright violation. But take the lawyer's advice with the following grain of salt. It is in a lawyer's interest for you to go to court. But the best outcome FOR YOU is almost certainly a negotiated settlement. However your legal threat is the best way to get them to settle.

https://www.bhfs.com/insights/alerts-articles/2021/supreme-c...

Re: Ask HN: YC company copied our product, what can we do?

#16

Its also pretty telling how quickly this is getting flagged off the front page!

Would you like more of the front page to be people lobbing vague allegations at YC funded companies? The only reason it isn't flagged to death is because they make a point of staying out of YC stuff, it's definitely not front page material.

Re: Ask HN: YC company copied our product, what can we do?

#18
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. This is just another proof point, you may even be able to use it to raise more capital.

Focus on your differentiator/USP and providing the best service to your customers. Any decent and obvious market has copycats and competitors.

Re: Ask HN: YC company copied our product, what can we do?

#20

Very sorry to hear this. Did you have any copyright to the apis or the code? Or even a ToS on your slack channel? IANAL so wouldn't hurt to speak to a lawyer. Also sorry I am not good reading the signals - why would being a female founder make you angrier than a non female founder? Id be angry as F too if a clone of my hard work appeared out of no where!

> Did you have any copyright to the apis or the code?

Any code that's written from scratch is automatically assigned copyright to the creator or their employer at the time of creation. API's are probably considered copyrighted by the courts but getting any kind of remedy for that will be exceedingly difficult after Google vs. Oracle.

> Id be angry as F too if a clone of my hard work appeared out of no where!

This happens literally all the time. I wouldn't recommend someone be a founder if this upsets them. No half-decent innovation isn't instantly cloned by 10 fly-by-night copycats and multiple large incumbents.

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