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The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by doubleg72 »

JPws_Prntr_Fngr wrote: post #134
carapace wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ahead of what? They die too just like everybody else.

Ahead on virtually any measure of material or social success, and they further consolidate their advantages by functioning multi-generationally, which means that no, they don't die quite like everybody else. See for example: the Bush dynasty vs the typical "successful" American family. Do you know anyone benefiting from their great-grandfather's Nazi money, plus their grandfather's CIA/oil cartel black ops + presiden…

Thanks for reminding me to grab the tinfoil hat!

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by barbacoa »

appplication wrote: post #138
barbacoa wrote: post #133

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What's even more alarming is that this increases in all-cause deaths were present in the vaccine clinical study data. The vaccine group had fewer covid deaths but had significantly more overall deaths that the non vaccine control group.

Citations needed, this is sounding like some 5g microchip conspiracy nonsense.

https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/pfizers-clinical-trial-had-...

One would expect more deaths in the placebo group from all the people who died of covid. Which makes the data even more striking.

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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appplication wrote: post #138
barbacoa wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's even more alarming is that this increases in all-cause deaths were present in the vaccine clinical study data. The vaccine group had fewer covid deaths but had significantly more overall deaths that the non vaccine control group.

Citations needed, this is sounding like some 5g microchip conspiracy nonsense.

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Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by dylan604 »

mycall wrote: post #140
dylan604 wrote: post #49

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In those same groups that made those VHS tapes, there's a theory on the name Hollywood itself. The wand that Merlin used to cast spells was made from holly. This was a core part of their evidence that the movie industry is meant to keep the populace under the spell of their illusions, or some such logic Sadly, I have way too much familiarity with these VHS tapes and 'zines and radio programs. Once the internet took o…

Wilcox named his property Hollywood in 1887, long before movies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood,_Los_Angeles#History

I don't know why you're trying to bring reasoning and logic into a conspiracy conversation. A bigger waste of oxygen, I'm not familiar.

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by anonym29 »

elteto wrote: post #96
jibe wrote: post #81

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It wasn’t too bad, the movie spanned 4 months from outbreak to vaccine. Pfizer’s Covid trial started 5 months after outbreak. If Covid was killing 20% like the virus in the movie, we could have matched or beaten the movie timeline.

Good point. Although if we do have a pandemic with 20% mortality rates I feel like we would experience societal collapse in a much larger scale than in the movie. Much larger as in: we can’t finish developing a vaccine because world order is severely degraded.

Thank goodness COVID's mortality rates for nonsmokers aged 18-50 without diabetes were 2-3 orders of magnitude lower than that.

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by free_glamorgan »

aardshark wrote: post #125
free_glamorgan wrote: post #115

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I have a working hypothesis that a very large number of people don't personally know anyone who has died of Covid, except maybe for an elderly relative and "they were getting on a bit anyway". It's true of me and anyone else I've had this conversation with.

Do you live in a first world Western country and is your social circle comprised of people who do the same? In my experience when you go outside of that circle you start finding people who have personally experienced loss from COVID very quickly.

Statistically, a social circle comprised of first world, Western, overweight and inactive and generally older folk should have the most susceptibility to death from Covid.

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by [deleted] »

Fervicus wrote: post #77
nsxwolf wrote: post #12

I wonder if "Contagion" was propaganda. It really made me believe that if a SARS pandemic ever happened, a bunch of incredibly competent scientists and government agents would swoop in and save us all. The "Olympus Has Fallen" series also made me believe that if a mob ever stepped foot on the White House lawn, a bunch of auto turrets would pop up and gun them all down. The last few years has shown that the world is r…

> the world is run by a bunch of jokers That's what they'd like you to believe. They know exactly what they are doing.

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Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by appplication »

barbacoa wrote: post #142
appplication wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citations needed, this is sounding like some 5g microchip conspiracy nonsense.

https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/pfizers-clinical-trial-had-... One would expect more deaths in the placebo group from all the people who died of covid. Which makes the data even more striking.

Well I poked around, I’m not sure exactly what you’re seeing. One would expect more covid deaths in the placebo, and that is the case. Most of the deaths in both groups are indeed unrelated to Covid at all. You can see exact cause of death for all participants here: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2021/07/28/202...

I suspect the number your focusing on is the 4 cardiac arrest deaths. At a glance it seems 4x higher than the one reported placebo death. But the number is 4 vs 1 for over 20k people. Why not instead focus on placebo group having 2 vs 0 myocardial infarction? The reason why not is that dying is noisy business, and things like cardiac arrest have a pretty high baseline, and this is such a small sample the variance is likely noise.

Perhaps you could present a proper statistical analysis to convince otherwise? Something similar to the methodology for determining Covid vaccine’s effectiveness in preventing Covid deaths. After all, the data is all there. I didn’t see anything resembling such an analysis in your linked source. Just the confused ramblings of someone nontechnical, clearly out of their depth in reading a fairly basic research paper.

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by Melting_Harps »

nsxwolf wrote: post #57
ceejayoz wrote: post #34

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Contagion got things pretty much spot-on. Conspiracy theorists with fake cures, political officials who fight mitigation measures, contact tracing, panic buying, at-home substitutes for school events, fairly rapid vaccine development and the initial scarcity of it. The major difference was the mortality rate; the movie's virus killed something like 25%. One of the odd difficulties with COVID is it's deadly enough (es…

The inaccurate part of the movie is that all that stuff worked. In real life, what "ended" the pandemic was a combination of mother nature and the human willingness to accept a lost cause and move on.

> The inaccurate part of the movie is that all that stuff worked. In real life, what "ended" the pandemic was a combination of mother nature and the human willingness to accept a lost cause and move on.

The war in Ukraine and the market correction in Nov '21 helped to divert attention from the immense amount of coverage that COVID otherwise got. In fact, Ukraine was doing tracing and the QR code vaccination passports (per EU standards) in the Fall of '21 and it's infection rates and deaths only increased in the Winter due to low vaccination rates [0].

Then the invasion happened and no one cared and all the grifting from things like VC juicing of stocks like Zoom, Peleton, retail getting locked out and losing GME gains etc... also got swept under the rug as intrest rates were on the rise and cost of living rised with it and Putin became the reason for all of it and not the immense amount of fiscal policy repercussions of Quantitative easing, ZIRP and immense spending on all of these fake measures to contain COVID.

Putin is a bastard and a despot and deserves all the ire and hopefully a swift death for the inhumane things in this senseless war, but it also gave the West pre-text to divert the ills of society's occurring since at least 2008 an over-simplified narrative to convince the masses with the abomination of the war footage from Western outlets and get it to be the new normal.

0: https://www.reuters.com/world/ukraine-capital-tightens-lockd...

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by extraduder_ire »

LelouBil wrote: post #127
WhereIsTheTruth wrote: post #7

"The loan was followed in 1948 by a free grant of $2.3 billion from the Marshall Plan, with no repayment. In exchange, French cinemas would replace the numerical quota with a "screen quota". This meant that French cinemas were required to show French-made films for four weeks out of every thirteen and leave the other nine weeks of every quarter open to free competition, namely from American films.[5]" https://en.wiki…

French law defines a whole "media chronology" where a movie can only be shown in theaters the first x months, then it can only be leased for the next x months, then released in disc, etc...

Why is that? I assume that's in a no-later-than sense, with later tiers being added on and not replacing earlier ones.

If not, wouldn't that make second-run films or pulling under-performers from screens earlier illegal?

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