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The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by JPws_Prntr_Fngr »

johnohara wrote: post #65
nsxwolf wrote: post #12

I wonder if "Contagion" was propaganda. It really made me believe that if a SARS pandemic ever happened, a bunch of incredibly competent scientists and government agents would swoop in and save us all. The "Olympus Has Fallen" series also made me believe that if a mob ever stepped foot on the White House lawn, a bunch of auto turrets would pop up and gun them all down. The last few years has shown that the world is r…

"They Live (1988)" has seemed oddly relevant over the years.

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Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by jowea »

the_optimist wrote: post #30
mikece wrote: post #3

I'm curious: for how many people is this news? For those more inquiring you should look into the Smith-Mundt Act, which makes it illegal for the US Government to directly propagandize the American people; it was effectively repealed in 2012.

Is there a difference between propaganda and false information? This is a practical question. If they say “propaganda” but in practice simply plant false information, is that still in scope?

I mean, aren't PSAs (Public Service Announcements) propaganda?

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by barbacoa »

claytongulick wrote: post #129
ceejayoz wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And an effective vaccine, as far as death and severe illness is concerned. https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/new-study-shows-fewer-p... > The findings, based on data across 2,558 counties in 48 US states, show that counties with high vaccine coverage had a more than 80% reduction in death rates compared with largely unvaccinated counties.

We're going to need to determine the cause of the unexplained spike in recent all-cause mortality before we can have any sort of meaningful conversation about the risk/benefit analysis of the covid vaccination program.

What's even more alarming is that this increases in all-cause deaths were present in the vaccine clinical study data. The vaccine group had fewer covid deaths but had significantly more overall deaths that the non vaccine control group.

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by JPws_Prntr_Fngr »

carapace wrote: post #123
mushbino wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And in this case, they always seem to get more wealthy and come out ahead no matter what.

Ahead of what? They die too just like everybody else.

Ahead on virtually any measure of material or social success, and they further consolidate their advantages by functioning multi-generationally, which means that no, they don't die quite like everybody else.

See for example: the Bush dynasty vs the typical "successful" American family. Do you know anyone benefiting from their great-grandfather's Nazi money, plus their grandfather's CIA/oil cartel black ops + presidency + Carlyle group influence trading, plus their father's presidency (and yet-to-be-proven criminal fuckery)? I don't.

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by goodbyesf »

ceejayoz wrote: post #34
nsxwolf wrote: post #12

I wonder if "Contagion" was propaganda. It really made me believe that if a SARS pandemic ever happened, a bunch of incredibly competent scientists and government agents would swoop in and save us all. The "Olympus Has Fallen" series also made me believe that if a mob ever stepped foot on the White House lawn, a bunch of auto turrets would pop up and gun them all down. The last few years has shown that the world is r…

Contagion got things pretty much spot-on. Conspiracy theorists with fake cures, political officials who fight mitigation measures, contact tracing, panic buying, at-home substitutes for school events, fairly rapid vaccine development and the initial scarcity of it. The major difference was the mortality rate; the movie's virus killed something like 25%. One of the odd difficulties with COVID is it's deadly enough (es…

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Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by goodbyesf »

Dig1t wrote: post #16
WhereIsTheTruth wrote: post #7

"The loan was followed in 1948 by a free grant of $2.3 billion from the Marshall Plan, with no repayment. In exchange, French cinemas would replace the numerical quota with a "screen quota". This meant that French cinemas were required to show French-made films for four weeks out of every thirteen and leave the other nine weeks of every quarter open to free competition, namely from American films.[5]" https://en.wiki…

Wow that's insane. If China did that same thing today, we would be up in arms.

We would be up in arms because the propaganda would tells us to be up in arms. It's remarkable how our feelings towards each other and to foreign countries are entirely shaped by propaganda.

Anyone here old enough to remember freedom fries?

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by appplication »

barbacoa wrote: post #133
claytongulick wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're going to need to determine the cause of the unexplained spike in recent all-cause mortality before we can have any sort of meaningful conversation about the risk/benefit analysis of the covid vaccination program.

What's even more alarming is that this increases in all-cause deaths were present in the vaccine clinical study data. The vaccine group had fewer covid deaths but had significantly more overall deaths that the non vaccine control group.

Citations needed, this is sounding like some 5g microchip conspiracy nonsense.

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by peterashford »

barbacoa wrote: post #133
claytongulick wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're going to need to determine the cause of the unexplained spike in recent all-cause mortality before we can have any sort of meaningful conversation about the risk/benefit analysis of the covid vaccination program.

What's even more alarming is that this increases in all-cause deaths were present in the vaccine clinical study data. The vaccine group had fewer covid deaths but had significantly more overall deaths that the non vaccine control group.

I don't believe that is true.

Re: The Pentagon and CIA have shaped thousands of movies into effective propaganda

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Post by mycall »

dylan604 wrote: post #49
maerF0x0 wrote: post #18

In the early 90's my moms friend group was passing around this VHS where a guy who claimed to be ex military nervously explained that a lot of hollywood production was the government easing secrets it knew and legally had to disclose to the public so it would put them into hollywood movies. Things like spy stuff or aliens. I have no idea how I'd ever find the source or original of that. Would be interesting to see if…

In those same groups that made those VHS tapes, there's a theory on the name Hollywood itself. The wand that Merlin used to cast spells was made from holly. This was a core part of their evidence that the movie industry is meant to keep the populace under the spell of their illusions, or some such logic Sadly, I have way too much familiarity with these VHS tapes and 'zines and radio programs. Once the internet took o…

Wilcox named his property Hollywood in 1887, long before movies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood,_Los_Angeles#History

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