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Re: This page exists only if someone is looking at it

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Post by cowsup »

aryan14 wrote: post #5

I wonder if this technology can be used in the future for cheaper/more efficient web hosting..? I see big potential

Quite the opposite. For this set up, you still need to pay for hosting, or host it yourself, and you need to deliver the underlying frontend code to the user's devices that makes all of this possible. Then you also need a backend to handle the socket connections and send it from user to user (this is not P2P). The constant pinging to see if anyone is waiting for a copy, and then sending it out, will only continue to eat up resources the more people are looking at it.

From an efficiency standpoint, this doesn't come close to beating a simple static cacheable text file. Definitely still a very cool concept, but offers limited real-world use.

Re: This page exists only if someone is looking at it

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Post by kurisufag »

echelon wrote: post #34
MR4D wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FTA - Your browser retrieved it from the browser of someone currently viewing this page. You're now a part of the network and someone who loads this page in the future may get it from you!

If it passes over a central server, does it really count as p2p? If browsers grew p2p capabilities [1], we could begin to bypass centralization and build truly distributed (not just federated) social networks, news systems, and the like. Imagine not having to run "archive.is" against headlines. You just share them - tamperlessly - with others. And the comment graph. You could even begin to boost high-value content wi…

> You can't even imagine that today

Matrix? and to a significantly lesser extent Telegram.

Re: This page exists only if someone is looking at it

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Post by davidmnoll »

Waterluvian wrote: post #2

I love love love these kinds of experiments. Reminds me of the Early Web. I really wish WebRTC was easier to use. I wish there were some good faith free servers to do the… crap I forget the acronyms… the STUN and TURN stuff and whatnot to negotiate the connections. Ie. Not a proxy, just an operator. Having one I could use freely and comfortably would trivialize a lot of neat projects, particularly fun little multipla…

I recently learned you can do the candidate server exchange without those servers. There was an implementation which used [this](https://github.com/cjb/serverless-webrtc) as a backend and a QR code to do the transfer. I can't seem to find it now. However they were having issues with the QR code reaching its size limit, leading to the question of whether you could break the message into a series of qr codes.

Pretty interesting stuff, I was considering taking a crack at it as part of a project I'm working on.

Edit: [here](https://franklinta.com/2014/10/19/serverless-webrtc-using-qr... the blog post about it

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