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Re: What OpenAI really wants

#51

Post by ugjka » Wed, Sep 06, 2023, 7:36 PM UTC

> Riding with Altman, I can almost hear the ringing, ambiguous chord that opens “A Hard Day’s Night”—introducing the future. Last November, when OpenAI let loose its monster hit, ChatGPT, it triggered a tech explosion not seen since the internet burst into our lives. Suddenly the Turing test was history, search engines were endangered species, and no college essay could ever be trusted. No job was safe. No scientific problem was immutable.

ChatGPT craze has wore off for me, because of constant hallucinations when you ask for something slightly more esoterical. And I can't justify paying 20$ for GPT-4 to have more convincing hallucinations

Re: What OpenAI really wants

#52

Post by nxm » Wed, Sep 06, 2023, 7:39 PM UTC

mustafa_pasi wrote: post #26

swyx wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

maybe Europe needs to lighten up a little on the credentialism. (i am not at all saying this is exclusive to europe tho)

Definitely, but it is not our only problem. We don't get those lucrative internships and neither do we get the boatloads of startup capital. It's all caused by the same risk averse mentality, though.

Most importantly, it’s bankruptcy laws in the US that encourage and reward risk taking which push technology forward. Last I’ve heard Europe is trying to update its laws for this exact reason

Re: What OpenAI really wants

#53

Post by reducesuffering » Wed, Sep 06, 2023, 7:41 PM UTC

In this thread, people accuse Sam Altman of pursuing purely financial gain while he holds no equity in OpenAI.

Re: What OpenAI really wants

#54

Post by mmanciop » Wed, Sep 06, 2023, 7:43 PM UTC

calibas wrote: post #45

Let's not romanticize business too much, they want money.

The just want tons of moneys

Re: What OpenAI really wants

#55

Post by tough » Wed, Sep 06, 2023, 7:44 PM UTC

rmbyrro wrote: post #50

calibas wrote: post #45

Let's not romanticize business too much, they want money.

They want monopoly. Or, worse case, olygopoly. Which leads to an unrivaled, long-term money making machine and power.

moneypoly

Re: What OpenAI really wants

#56

Post by mym1990 » Wed, Sep 06, 2023, 7:45 PM UTC

smfugit wrote: post #49

"A Wealth of Information produces a Poverty of Attention" The real need is an efficient allocation of Attention. That has not been solved. And is far away from being solved if you pay attention to the kind of things people pay attention too today. What is apparent is OpenAI is run by totally clueless mindlessly ambitious one dimensional buffoons.

An efficient allocation of attention would be the exact opposite of the goal of basically any social media company(or any attention based company). The problem of attention allocation comes down to the individual deciding not to participate in the never ending cycle of bite sized clips of information. The companies are unlikely to make this easier for you.

Re: What OpenAI really wants

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Post by JamesBarney » Wed, Sep 06, 2023, 7:48 PM UTC

calibas wrote: post #45

Let's not romanticize business too much, they want money.

The Open AI corporation is owned by a non-profit.

Re: What OpenAI really wants

#58

Post by mym1990 » Wed, Sep 06, 2023, 7:48 PM UTC

reducesuffering wrote: post #53

In this thread, people accuse Sam Altman of pursuing purely financial gain while he holds no equity in OpenAI.

As if equity is the only possible way to get rich. Sam has plenty of money, his next goal is likely an indirect accumulation of power, for better or for worse.

Re: What OpenAI really wants

#59

Post by ACV001 » Wed, Sep 06, 2023, 7:49 PM UTC

Please remind me what exactly is "Open" in this enterprise?

Re: What OpenAI really wants

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Post by wafflemaker » Wed, Sep 06, 2023, 7:52 PM UTC

ugjka wrote: post #51

> Riding with Altman, I can almost hear the ringing, ambiguous chord that opens “A Hard Day’s Night”—introducing the future. Last November, when OpenAI let loose its monster hit, ChatGPT, it triggered a tech explosion not seen since the internet burst into our lives. Suddenly the Turing test was history, search engines were endangered species, and no college essay could ever be trusted. No job was safe. No scientific…

Saying that ChatGPT sucks after trying only the free version is like saying that pizza sucks after trying only the frozen pizza because you don't want to spend $20 on a pizza in a good Italian restaurant.