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Re: China Bans iPhone Use for Government Officials at Work

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Post by WhereIsTheTruth »

baby wrote: post #34
smugma wrote: post #2

“China’s restriction mirrors similar bans in the U.S. against Huawei Technologies as well as against officials using Chinese-owned TikTok”

This is the correct explanation. And that makes sense as well. I think another insight might be that the Chinese gov doesn’t really like when large companies can influence their decisions. I’d imagine that if everyone in the gov has an iPhone it makes it harder to be tough on Tim Apple.

The reciprocity is related to fear of spying

In the age of AI and model training, data is more than ever precious

The US spying on EU leaders and their industry is perhaps what China is worried about

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-security-agency-spie...

https://www.mediapart.fr/en/journal/france/290615/revealed-m...

https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/russia-s...

Re: China Bans iPhone Use for Government Officials at Work

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Post by tyrfing »

morkalork wrote: post #31
toomuchtodo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla concern is autopilot cameras shipping images back to Tesla, which is valid; Tesla does ship stills back for training if enabled in the data sharing configuration.

Could the US government slip Tesla one of those nifty national security letters and get themselves a closet off some server room at Tesla HQ? It's not like they'd be spying on US citizens in China.

Sure, but data on Chinese users isn't allowed to leave China, so that Tesla HQ closet won't be very useful in this case.

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Post by manuelabeledo »

cabirum wrote: post #36

iPhones are also banned in Russia for govt officials. I believe that was after Kaspersky reported on the targeted vuln/backdoor attack ("Operation Triangulation")

> I believe that was after Kaspersky reported on the targeted vuln/backdoor attack

If that is true, what a bizarre reaction. Apple wasn't behind this, and, if anything, it highlighted Kaspersky shortcomings.

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

seatac76 wrote: post #43

Expect more and more of this. The ultimate prize are technology standards, right now the West dominates that and China is actively trying to dethrone them. The world will sort itself in two camps again, Cold War is back functionally.

>the West dominates

You mean the US dominates. I don't see any EU, Canadian or Australian designed smart-phones, Office365, Google, Chat-GPT, AWS, I can buy reaching critical mass.

Edit: INB4 the chip hipsters who found out about ASML during the pandemic chip shortage, chime in with "but muh ASML is European!". Yes, it is European(Dutch), it's also based on EUV tech licensed from the US, and has EUV light sources at it's core secret sauce, made by Cymer, a US company, but I was talking about software products and services which are the big money makers.

EU, Canada, and the rest of the west are lacking in world dominating SW companies and rely exclusively on the US, which the US can always use as leverage.

Ironically, China's detachment form the US SW companies and the need to develop it's own giants, will give it a major advantage long term, versus US's allies which will keep relying on it.

Re: China Bans iPhone Use for Government Officials at Work

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Post by manuelabeledo »

This just seems like a logical reaction to unknown supply chain attacks. The DoD has restrictions on acquisition of Chinese hardware, for example.

Some HN posters believe that this is a tit-for-tat move regarding the Huawei sales ban, which is hardly comparable, as Huawei hardware cannot be legally distributed or sold by US companies.

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