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Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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The article is not very clear about whether this kind of abusive data collection is actually happening and they can prove it, or whether they found the text of the privacy policies to be overly broad. I have no idea how a car would infer my sexual orientation.

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I don't know about their markups, but Mazda has been pulling out touchscreens and putting back buttons for audio and climate control purposes. Not sure how far it's made it through their models.

Sadly Mazda doesn’t make any AWD cars, only a crossover. AWD is a requirement for me. I loved a Mazda 2 I previously had and loved the Miata track car I sold when I moved last year. Mazda makes great cars but unfortunately none that meet my base requirements.

Mazda 3 can be optioned AWD

Edit: and seeing as you’re looking at a performance Corolla. You’d probably be interested in the Turbo AWD (250 hp and 320 lb-ft of torque). Car and Driver has an instrumented test. It’s not too far behind the GR and slightly cheaper

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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My insurance company's app sometimes detects commuter train rides as car trips. As far as I can tell, there's no way to tell it "No, I'm not actually driving now".

they'd be able to tell by the GPS coordinates, whether they bother, who know?

They’d be able to tell if the app were to require connecting to the car via Bluetooth. That connection won’t be there when traveling by train.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Possibly the high-end ones more so. My new, relatively low-end Honda Civic EX-B appears not to have cellular connectivity (no HondaLink) and no Wifi connectivity. The only cameras are the ones looking out the front and back. Of course it does have an interior microphone for the Bluetooth. But all in all the car seems "old school" and not spying on me. Am I wrong?

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Of all the horrible things go on with privacy these days, this is the one I hate the most. I’m a “car guy”, but not the sort that obsesses over old cars (although I do love 60s and 80s cars). I like new tech, I like the advances in engineering we’ve made in new vehicles, I like EVs even. Nonetheless I’ve been in the market for a new car for months and haven’t bought because it’s hard to find any cars that meet my req…

These markups are insane, and I wonder if anyone actually gets anywhere near paying them. I don’t really see the point since for those markups you can just get a nicer car. Unless car collectors really are that out of touch and flush with cash.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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I've been shopping for a new car recently, and got it down to the Chevy Bolt and the Hyundai Kona [because I want long-range electric and have a narrow garage]. On the Bolt it looks like you can just yank a fuse to kill the cellular radio, and on the Kona, there's a modem you can remove. I've even gotten the dealer to agree to have their shop do the removal, so as not to void any warranty =*).

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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I think it will be a good differentiation factor in a few years, that a brand comes up with an offline car, i.e. a car that you just refuel/charge and drive - no telemetry/connected features involved. It may be a niche thing in future, but certainly something that would be appealing to me as a consumer.

I don't see this happening. I see a lot of collusion between insurance, dealers, makers, and even the federal government to impose spyware for all future models.
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