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Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by vanilla_nut »

9g3890fj2 wrote: post #9

I connect my phone to my 2015 Nissan's bluetooth, but just for music. GrapheneOS lets me prevent its access to my contacts, call history, active calls, text messages - anything but music audio. To me (but not the less tech literate, I know), if you're connecting your car to your phone, it's obvious that it is able to gather things about you. That said, because I don't know much about cars, I don't know if the car is…

One more reason I'm glad I connect my phone with a headphone jack. Just an analog connection carrying audio. The car doesn't even know what it's playing, as far as I know. Though some cars do seem to extract track names and artist names over the aux jack, so I think there's a little more than just an analog signal?

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by Grazester »

geerlingguy wrote: post #32
hashtag-til wrote: post #3

I think it will be a good differentiation factor in a few years, that a brand comes up with an offline car, i.e. a car that you just refuel/charge and drive - no telemetry/connected features involved. It may be a niche thing in future, but certainly something that would be appealing to me as a consumer.

Maybe this is why Steve Jobs was working on an Apple Car... privacy as a selling point!

Hope that was a joke.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by s3p »

catchnear4321 wrote: post #16
nhance wrote: post #2

I've got a 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee and I've been searching for where the sim card is for the built in cellular modem so I can rip it out. It astounds me that there aren't more people interested in cutting off the constant telemetry and to be honest it wouldn't surprise me if the car refuses to operate correctly when I do figure out where it's at and pull it.

overwhelm the brain with input. to hold onto threads like this one, you have to be fairly healthy or fairly mad. not strapping on tin foil hat, this likely isn’t some massive coordinated effort. it could be done “better.” this is just making the most of the situation. at scale. if you simplify the question, “Who wants to let their car manufacturer surveil them?” - the answer is also simple. very few hands are going t…

I'm not sure what you're suggesting here.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by hef19898 »

artursapek wrote: post #37
0xcafefood wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you buy a car that meets those criteria?

you buy a good used car from the first decade of the 2000s or earlier

Mid 90s, and you can qualify for a historical car registration in Germany (min. age 30 years). Problem is, with all those diesel limitqtions regarding city acces, and classical cars being excempt, there is a discussion going to either get rid of those classic car excemptions or to increase the minimum age to 40 years.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

slashtab wrote: post #6
hashtag-til wrote: post #3

I think it will be a good differentiation factor in a few years, that a brand comes up with an offline car, i.e. a car that you just refuel/charge and drive - no telemetry/connected features involved. It may be a niche thing in future, but certainly something that would be appealing to me as a consumer.

Open source Car!!

Name's all sorted too:

The Oscar.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by Larrikin »

9g3890fj2 wrote: post #9

I connect my phone to my 2015 Nissan's bluetooth, but just for music. GrapheneOS lets me prevent its access to my contacts, call history, active calls, text messages - anything but music audio. To me (but not the less tech literate, I know), if you're connecting your car to your phone, it's obvious that it is able to gather things about you. That said, because I don't know much about cars, I don't know if the car is…

Don't Android and iOS by default prevent bluetooth from accessing your contacts and calls. I know on Android you have to click a permission popup when connecting to bluetooth to allow contact and call access

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Post by [deleted] »

sam_lowry_ wrote: post #23
thfuran wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't.

In some places, this is not an option. I have a mechanical Euro-5 car without sim card nor infotainment system that I would not be able to use where I live by end 2024. Welcome to the EU and its low-emissions zones that span over many of its big cities.

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