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Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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I've got a 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee and I've been searching for where the sim card is for the built in cellular modem so I can rip it out.

It astounds me that there aren't more people interested in cutting off the constant telemetry and to be honest it wouldn't surprise me if the car refuses to operate correctly when I do figure out where it's at and pull it.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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I think it will be a good differentiation factor in a few years, that a brand comes up with an offline car, i.e. a car that you just refuel/charge and drive - no telemetry/connected features involved.

It may be a niche thing in future, but certainly something that would be appealing to me as a consumer.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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Yes, and that is why I will never buy new unless in the contract I have;

1. No data harvesting

2. If I or anyone discovers any kind of data harvesting, at any time, I get a full refund of the original purchase price plus interest plus 2000 USD from the manufacture. If not received in 6 months, it double ever 6 months.

But from what I understand, I heard due to Massachusetts "Right to Repair", all of that is turned off.

But time for the Federal Gov to step in. I expect they will since some Congress Critter will complain about the Auto Industry tracking them or their children. Or, more then likely, due to how the US Gov have been operating for the last 30 years or so, Congress people will get to purchase "special" vehicles.

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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I think it will be a good differentiation factor in a few years, that a brand comes up with an offline car, i.e. a car that you just refuel/charge and drive - no telemetry/connected features involved. It may be a niche thing in future, but certainly something that would be appealing to me as a consumer.

Open source Car!!

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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I connect my phone to my 2015 Nissan's bluetooth, but just for music. GrapheneOS lets me prevent its access to my contacts, call history, active calls, text messages - anything but music audio. To me (but not the less tech literate, I know), if you're connecting your car to your phone, it's obvious that it is able to gather things about you.

That said, because I don't know much about cars, I don't know if the car is even capable of phoning home or by what means. Is it a 4G signal? Just a radio transponder? How do I even investigate without tearing my dash apart?

Re: Internet-connected cars fail privacy and security tests conducted by Mozilla

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I think it will be a good differentiation factor in a few years, that a brand comes up with an offline car, i.e. a car that you just refuel/charge and drive - no telemetry/connected features involved. It may be a niche thing in future, but certainly something that would be appealing to me as a consumer.

Add analog buttons, knobs and I'm sold!
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