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Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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You're either out of touch, or pushing an agenda yourself. Firefox is a great browser, a sensible choice without any flaws that exists RIGHT NOW, that does not add a weekly "feature" that encroaches the user's interests.

I'm neither. I'm a Firefox user frustrated by the decisions of the company in charge of it. Check it out: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37015592

It is fair to criticize Mozilla's operations. It's not fair to spew FUD on the best browser alternative that currently exists - your comment implies that Firefox isn't any better than Chrome. That is simply not true from a user-hostileness perspective, which is the context.

Financials are another matter, and if they are really so problematic then what you should do is either propose a better alternative, or even work on it yourself, given that it is open source what we're talking about.

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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Ah the good old fake pattern of having to switch this on every single installation despite being able to switch it on account level technically.

Some needs to sue Meta for this too, “presence” across all their apps behaves the same. And resets on every major update.

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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And people insist spreading Chrome via Electron.

Does Firefox support web apps via PWA APIs yet? That was one of the biggest issues I had with it on desktop - it removes the need for Electron and Mozilla just dropped the plans.

No and it doesn't matter.

Electron is for lazy developers that cannot master Web widgets available for 30 years on mainstream OSes.

Or step out of their comfort zone into pure native applications, or background services making use of default browser for UI.

If people like myself have been able to master multiple native since decades, and also use such approaches during the dotcom boom, it is hardly an excuse for younger devs lacking such skills, other than laziness.

And yes, even MS, VSCode isn't as bad, as it relies on several external processes, renders into WebGL, and has the excuse they use it to sell services into Azure and Github, back at X-Windows/one UNIX development server.

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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This argument lacks for the average consumer. Heavily. Do you compile every update of Firefox yourself (and this assumes that you have read every line of code that changed during updates)? Especially when on Windows or macOS, you just download the version that is distributed by mozilla.org on their website. There is no guarantee that they're using the actual sources to build. They could just as well add in a little p…

I download the version from my distribution's package manager, which is compiled by independent volunteers.

Is that safer than downloading from Mozilla or Vivaldi? For $10,000 which one would be more likely to add a compromise?

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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> Why am I even using this browser anymore? Yeah, stop putting up with all these anti-features! Firefox, Brave etc are not perfect but at least they're not THAT. No matter how many hoops you jump through, still using Chrome means it is being endorsed. Wish more people would reconsider it like you and jump ship!

I have been using Firefox since version 2.x and I never understood what downsides people find with it. I've used chrome and the only difference i saw was annoying pushes from google to log in so that i could be tracked all the time. Otherwise, it shows web pages, what more do you want?

I quite dislike all the crap they try to tack on like Sync or Pocket, sometimes cluttering the UI after an update. But still everything can be disabled, so not too much of an annoyance.

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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> Why am I even using this browser anymore? Yeah, stop putting up with all these anti-features! Firefox, Brave etc are not perfect but at least they're not THAT. No matter how many hoops you jump through, still using Chrome means it is being endorsed. Wish more people would reconsider it like you and jump ship!

I have been using Firefox since version 2.x and I never understood what downsides people find with it. I've used chrome and the only difference i saw was annoying pushes from google to log in so that i could be tracked all the time. Otherwise, it shows web pages, what more do you want?

Firefox's branding has always felt a little unusual to me. not as bad as some other popular free apps (SumatraPDF, VLC) but perhaps that subconsciously puts people off? Chrome has always looked and sounded quite clean and cool in comparison. I say this as someone who only ever uses FF or Safari

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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Firefox, the browser that recently started literally showing ad spam on the new tab page on mobile? I'm sure they're a lot better.

They are a lot better. You’re talking about Google, a company that literally owns its existence and trillions of dollars of revenue to targeted advertising across the entire world, vs Mozilla, a company that’s chosen to add a few non-targetted ads that are easily disabled.[1] [1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/sponsor-privacy

Not to put too fine a point on it, but Mozilla also owns its existence to Google's firehouse of money, a portion of which is streamed to Mozilla (some $500M in FY 2021) to ensure they keep Google as the default search engine.

Re: Google Chrome pushes browser history-based ad targeting

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Just got this blocking modal. In mine, the title says “Turn on an ad privacy feature”. That is misleading to say the least. This is a privacy-invading feature, leaking summaries of my browsing history to anyone who wants to have a look. What’s worse, the modal completely blocks the UI, so you can’t even search for it to understand more. Why am I even using this browser anymore? EDIT: Note this section about privacy g…

Im sorry but if you are using Chrome as a “pro” nowadays, its your own fault. There are countless alternatives available, starting from Firefox, to Brave, to some exotic browsers, and if you must use Chrome, then there is a de-Googled one called Chromium. Its clear that Google is milking every single one of its users using their browser, since they have access to your computers. Probably this is the “vector” they use…

> there is a de-Googled one called Chromium

There's Chromium and there's Ungoogled Chromium[1]. If you're looking for (some) independence from Google, you want the latter. Or just avoid it altogether and use other browsers.

I wouldn't recommend Blink-based browsers (Brave, Vivaldi, Opera, etc.) You're still indirectly giving Google power over the web by using their engine.

[1] https://github.com/ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium

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