On the 10th anniversary of the Snowden revelations
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On the 10th anniversary of the Snowden revelations
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Re: On the 10th anniversary of the Snowden revelations
#2I still haven't gotten my head around the valorization of Bill Binney, who does not appear to have been an opponent of dragnet surveillance, as he's so often portrayed, but rather of inefficient and poorly managed dragnet surveillance. ThinThread, the system he designed and left NSA over when they didn't pursue it, still left it up to NSA to determine which data to make available, and still presumed NSA would collect the same raw data.
Maybe someone more familiar with ThinThread can make a case for how that system would be acceptable to us where Trailblazer (its competing design, in the narrative one tends to read here) wasn't.
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#3This reads like NSA Public Relations.
Snowden was no whistleblower, NSA did some overcollection but anyway their mission is great and yeah some safeguards had to be improved.
And Keith Alexander is a reliable source.
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#4This reads like NSA Public Relations. Snowden was no whistleblower, NSA did some overcollection but anyway their mission is great and yeah some safeguards had to be improved. And Keith Alexander is a reliable source.
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#5This reads like NSA Public Relations. Snowden was no whistleblower, NSA did some overcollection but anyway their mission is great and yeah some safeguards had to be improved. And Keith Alexander is a reliable source.
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#6This reads like NSA Public Relations. Snowden was no whistleblower, NSA did some overcollection but anyway their mission is great and yeah some safeguards had to be improved. And Keith Alexander is a reliable source.
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Its the behavior of someone that doesn't want to go to prison in the US.
There are literally only a handful of countries that are viable to avoiding that. Them being geopolitical opponents is exactly what they are countries that are viable to avoiding that. You are choosing to put the cart before the horse, that he went to geopolitical opponents to give secrets, and not that he was going to a handful of countries that would avoid prison in the US. and yes, I'm choosing to see it the other way, because his actions are more congruent with the other way. He was trying to go to a different country but could not reach it. The US intercepted flights they merely thought had him on it.
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
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Its the behavior of someone that doesn't want to go to prison in the US. There are literally only a handful of countries that are viable to avoiding that. Them being geopolitical opponents is exactly what they are countries that are viable to avoiding that. You are choosing to put the cart before the horse, that he went to geopolitical opponents to give secrets, and not that he was going to a handful of countries tha…
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#8This reads like NSA Public Relations. Snowden was no whistleblower, NSA did some overcollection but anyway their mission is great and yeah some safeguards had to be improved. And Keith Alexander is a reliable source.
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> His behavior isn't what a whistleblower does.
You need to explain this. Why should a whistleblower have to go to prison? Don't deflect with whataboutisms.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Its the behavior of someone that doesn't want to go to prison in the US. There are literally only a handful of countries that are viable to avoiding that. Them being geopolitical opponents is exactly what they are countries that are viable to avoiding that. You are choosing to put the cart before the horse, that he went to geopolitical opponents to give secrets, and not that he was going to a handful of countries tha…
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He gave that data to american citizens in Hong Kong and retained no copy. Obama's people trapped him in transit in russia on his way to south america so that they could claim "russia! russia!" They openly bragged about this. It worked on both levels. He's stuck and people amazingly still claim he's in with the russians.
It always surprises me how many people still come out with this totally discredited line that he gave secrets to china and russia. Are we done with the equally dishonest claim that he put lives in danger or is everyone across that being a total lie now.
When I think of courage I think of Snowden speaking out against Putin while stuck in russia. When I think of cowardice I think of the lack of prosecution for all those spooks who are now paid by CNN to lie to the public. Who decided not to prosecute clapper? How? He's above the law. Why?