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The food is designed to make you work late and law firms and consulting outfits will realise this too if they haven’t already.

Law firms do this already. On site doctors too = no reason to ever leave!

(Also, in NYC, call the car service to go home late at night.)

Re: Google was founded 25 years ago today

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Without commenting on the direction of the company in recent years and where it is today, I'll be forever grateful to Google for setting the standard for how tech companies need to treat their engineers. People who have entered the industry in the last decade or two may not realize it, but the sky high salaries, stock grants, benefits, flexible work hours, free gourmet meals, stocked pantries, gym memberships and lot…

Reminds me of those old movies with a map of the world that is 99% the USA

Also didn’t Google engage in a wage fixing cartel?

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Many companies in the bay area pay 25% more than prevailing- it's called "the bay area tax".

We are talking about the bay area. No one – IBM, Cisco, Apple, Oracle, HP, Novell, Intel, Motorola, 3Com, Yahoo or any of the other big industry players that employed software engineers – paid anywhere near the salary and benefits of Google.

When I chose to return to Genentech I had an offer from Apple and it certainly met or exceeeded everything in my previous Google offers. This is consistent with my read on other employers like Facebook and Microsoft.

Re: Google was founded 25 years ago today

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post #99

Without commenting on the direction of the company in recent years and where it is today, I'll be forever grateful to Google for setting the standard for how tech companies need to treat their engineers. People who have entered the industry in the last decade or two may not realize it, but the sky high salaries, stock grants, benefits, flexible work hours, free gourmet meals, stocked pantries, gym memberships and lot…

I would say 2004 google (ipo) is very different from 2011 google (lary is back as ceo) vs now in terms of employee friendliness

Re: Google was founded 25 years ago today

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post #99

Without commenting on the direction of the company in recent years and where it is today, I'll be forever grateful to Google for setting the standard for how tech companies need to treat their engineers. People who have entered the industry in the last decade or two may not realize it, but the sky high salaries, stock grants, benefits, flexible work hours, free gourmet meals, stocked pantries, gym memberships and lot…

Google does indeed deserve kudos for being an early adopter of great benefits, WLB, cool offices, etc. But I'm not sure how much credit they deserve for "sky high" compensation. I had a classmate with competing offers from both MS and Google back in 2007 - the Google offer was pretty close to MS's offer, both at the time and over the prior decade.

A big reason why silicon valley comp rose so much in the last decade was because major companies were previously colluding to suppress worker wages. And yes, this includes Google. It ended in 2009, and that's when tech compensation really exploded. See link at bottom.

If anything I would give Facebook far more credit. They were willing to pay more than any other major tech company. And more importantly, they also refused to participate in the aforementioned cartel, which resulted in a ton of poaching atcivity which drove up market wages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust_L...

Re: Google was founded 25 years ago today

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Lot of messages in that that picture. Elements of simplicity, couple ordinary people rolling up their sleeves and saying why not them, classic American dream. Attire is also interesting, I think more for them to feel like they are at work and not hanging around a friends garage.

If you've ever had to wake up in the morning and set your own direction, you'll appreciate the picture.

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What's also incredible about early Google is how FAST the company created unique technology that led to decades-long profits. The company IPO'd in August 2004, less than 6 years after it was founded. I think the market cap was around $20 B then, and now it's in the trillions. I don't think any other company since has done it that fast -- Stripe, Uber, AirBNB, Dropbox, etc. Compare Facebook, a company that also grew q…

Even a relatively large 3,000 person company is much different from a much larger company and especially if you've dome well financially it's pretty natural to either leave or just coast for a bit. And depending upon where you are you maybe don't want to take a new job but just take your pay for a while.

Re: Google was founded 25 years ago today

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Hmm, I still fail to realize that, as except flexible work hours, none of this is matching my experience as a software engineer. I live in Europe though. It's not that I complain of my situation: I'm healthy, have a loving family, and work with a great team which is full of kindness and which is part of an international group, something that let me exchange with people from all around the world as part of my job in a…

The food is designed to make you work late and law firms and consulting outfits will realise this too if they haven’t already.

Not at Google. The food is there because they have to spend all their money on something, or risk being singled out as a monopoly.

That sounds conspiratorial, but it's really the only thing that makes sense to me.

Re: Google was founded 25 years ago today

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post #99

Without commenting on the direction of the company in recent years and where it is today, I'll be forever grateful to Google for setting the standard for how tech companies need to treat their engineers. People who have entered the industry in the last decade or two may not realize it, but the sky high salaries, stock grants, benefits, flexible work hours, free gourmet meals, stocked pantries, gym memberships and lot…

I partially agree; they did make a big splash with all of those benefits, but also Google excludes 54% of their workforce (TVCs) from these benefits. Its a bit of a stretch to say tech workers owe Google for these benefits at other companies. To me, they're a shrewd US corporation (not that there is anything particularly wrong with that) where I don't see a lot of "goodness".

Re: Google was founded 25 years ago today

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"Google was blah blah blah..."

That's nice dear.

Google was cool but isn't now and haven't been any kind of cool for well over a decade. I recall dumping Altavista for Google and now I note I have recently dumped Chrome for Firefox and G for DDG.

It doesn't really matter: Google and co now has a hold over us proles that Big Brother could only dream of. In 1984, you had a surveillance screen installed. Nowadays, you buy the bloody things yourself (Smart TVs, home IoT cams etc). Also you carry them on your person - smart phones.

C'est la vie et la guerre. (soz to Francophones)

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