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Re: Google was founded 25 years ago today

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How do I see the rest of this thread? I can only see one tweet.

https://nitter.net/uhoelzle/status/1442040678167375877

TY! That was interesting and I learned that their first servers can be viewed in various museums. While web searching that, I found this interesting tangent, a Lego cased storage array from 1996:

http://infolab.stanford.edu/pub/voy/museum/pictures/display/...

Re: Google was founded 25 years ago today

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Without commenting on the direction of the company in recent years and where it is today, I'll be forever grateful to Google for setting the standard for how tech companies need to treat their engineers. People who have entered the industry in the last decade or two may not realize it, but the sky high salaries, stock grants, benefits, flexible work hours, free gourmet meals, stocked pantries, gym memberships and lot…

100%. My dad was an electrical engineer in the 70s and 80s and ended up transitioning to sales, given that it paid much more.

Re: Google was founded 25 years ago today

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post #99

Without commenting on the direction of the company in recent years and where it is today, I'll be forever grateful to Google for setting the standard for how tech companies need to treat their engineers. People who have entered the industry in the last decade or two may not realize it, but the sky high salaries, stock grants, benefits, flexible work hours, free gourmet meals, stocked pantries, gym memberships and lot…

I seem to recall that at one point Microsoft guaranteed to match Google's offers, because Google had clearly figured out how to hire the best engineers.

Re: Google was founded 25 years ago today

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post #99

Without commenting on the direction of the company in recent years and where it is today, I'll be forever grateful to Google for setting the standard for how tech companies need to treat their engineers. People who have entered the industry in the last decade or two may not realize it, but the sky high salaries, stock grants, benefits, flexible work hours, free gourmet meals, stocked pantries, gym memberships and lot…

I'm not sure how much of it is Google and how much is just a broader collection of SV companies, but engineering salaries, including software, in general were much more conventional professional salaries until at least the dot-com era. I started with a computer company for about $40K in the mid-80s (with a grad degree) so a bit over $100K today with nothing special with respect to other benefits.

Re: Google was founded 25 years ago today

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post #99

Without commenting on the direction of the company in recent years and where it is today, I'll be forever grateful to Google for setting the standard for how tech companies need to treat their engineers. People who have entered the industry in the last decade or two may not realize it, but the sky high salaries, stock grants, benefits, flexible work hours, free gourmet meals, stocked pantries, gym memberships and lot…

I seem to recall that at one point Microsoft guaranteed to match Google's offers, because Google had clearly figured out how to hire the best engineers.

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Re: Google was founded 25 years ago today

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post #99

Without commenting on the direction of the company in recent years and where it is today, I'll be forever grateful to Google for setting the standard for how tech companies need to treat their engineers. People who have entered the industry in the last decade or two may not realize it, but the sky high salaries, stock grants, benefits, flexible work hours, free gourmet meals, stocked pantries, gym memberships and lot…

I seem to recall that at one point Microsoft guaranteed to match Google's offers, because Google had clearly figured out how to hire the best engineers.

It certainly doesn't seem that way now, unless there is a massive skew in titles (maybe an L4 at Google is given Senior Engineer 2 at MSFT or something?)

Re: Google was founded 25 years ago today

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post #99

Without commenting on the direction of the company in recent years and where it is today, I'll be forever grateful to Google for setting the standard for how tech companies need to treat their engineers. People who have entered the industry in the last decade or two may not realize it, but the sky high salaries, stock grants, benefits, flexible work hours, free gourmet meals, stocked pantries, gym memberships and lot…

Yes, no. They are also a major proponent of open office space, and (at least the group that I worked for was) very intolerant of remote work pre-pandemic. It was very grating to see all these showy spaces (cafes, gyms, theaters, climbing walls, ball pits etc) that were featured in the REWS (Google Real Estate and Workplace Services) newsletters, with absolutely no focus on the overcrowded open office spaces that engineers were forced to work in.

I left Google for Netflix mostly because of my inability to work remotely for Google, and the group I work for in Netflix being remote friendly.

Re: Google was founded 25 years ago today

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post #99

Without commenting on the direction of the company in recent years and where it is today, I'll be forever grateful to Google for setting the standard for how tech companies need to treat their engineers. People who have entered the industry in the last decade or two may not realize it, but the sky high salaries, stock grants, benefits, flexible work hours, free gourmet meals, stocked pantries, gym memberships and lot…

Google has lost lawsuits for colluding with Apple to suppress the wages of its employees
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