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Glove80 Ergonomic Keyboard

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Re: Glove80 Ergonomic Keyboard

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This looked so good until I saw it requires switches to be soldered (by them or you). Hot-swappable switches is a must for me, specially at this price point. I guess my ergodox will have to last a bit longer until a proper replacement is found.

There is a purchasing option for non-soldered switches.

Re: Glove80 Ergonomic Keyboard

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Reminder that if you have any sort of finger or wrist pain, arthritis, RSI, etc the simplest fix you can make is to switch to a better keyboard layout like Dvorak. QWERTY was made to be unergonomic by design and with full intent of making your fingers travel further to type out common words to avoid adjacent keys from sticking if struck in close temporal proximity due to manufacturing limitations of the time. I switc…

> Reminder that if you have any sort of finger or wrist pain, arthritis, RSI, etc...

Or better yet see a physiotherapist. The most important thing is not to ignore any tingling, numbness etc. That's a warning sign of RSI. Believe me it's better to address it early.

Re: Glove80 Ergonomic Keyboard

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I have not used a Penclic mouse, I am pretty sure that it is inferior to using a small Wacom Intuos graphic tablet instead of a mouse, like I do. The tablet is no larger than a traditional mouse pad, it is even somewhat smaller. The stylus, i.e. the pen, is much lighter than any pen-like mouse can be, and it has better resolution and accuracy. Because the pen works contactless and it is very light, you can move…

How did you configure the Wacom? Like in xorg.conf? Any tips?

I believe Wacom is a first class citizen in Linux. They have it in the kernel (https://linuxwacom.github.io/). There is also https://opentabletdriver.net/ that is multi-platform.

Re: Glove80 Ergonomic Keyboard

#185

Can someone who owns a Glove80 do a sound demonstration video please? Ive looked on youtube and there is not much out there. One of the main reasons I couldn’t get adjusted to using the Ergodox EZ was due to how it sounds.

I changed my Ergodox’s switches to some nice silents and put it on a desk pad and it was a lot better.

Re: Glove80 Ergonomic Keyboard

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Can someone who owns a Glove80 do a sound demonstration video please? Ive looked on youtube and there is not much out there. One of the main reasons I couldn’t get adjusted to using the Ergodox EZ was due to how it sounds.

I changed my Ergodox’s switches to some nice silents and put it on a desk pad and it was a lot better.

I might do that. I have Cherry MX Browns. I bought case foam and pcb foam for dampening. Could only install the pcb foam since it wouldn’t close with both. It didn’t make much of a difference. I do have a desk pad but I tent the keeb

Re: Glove80 Ergonomic Keyboard

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I wonder if all those "ergonomic" designs really aim at the right corner of the solution space. What about targetted exercise of involved muscle groups and regular breaks to stretch and relax the tendons/joints/muscles/...? I mean, with our societies sedentary life style, surely exacerbated by programmers sitting for 10+ hours a day, I'm a bit doubtful that moving even less is the answer. What about doing a few simpl…

While ergonomic keyboards are big part of some peoples fight against RSI, for many more using them is about comfort. After you get used to having tilted keyboard going back to normal one just feels tight and uncomfortable. Also for me big part about customizing your tools is exactly that - you get to customize your tools. I type professionally so it is insane to me when I see my colleagues working on some random lapt…

There is a trade-off between mobility and ergonomics. For some people mobility is more important for various reasons.

Re: Glove80 Ergonomic Keyboard

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right. It is qwerty but the columnar is what I meant would be a big obstacle

Ortholinear is what you are referring to and it is absolutely worth it to learn. Staggered keyboards don’t make sense anymore - the originally reason keys were staggered was because the bars could not physically overlap - and it is far more natural to type only moving each finger along two axis

With the UHK I am already having difficulty typing directly on my MacBook. With the ortholinear this might only make switching back and forth harder. But it is intriguing.

Re: Glove80 Ergonomic Keyboard

#189

This looked so good until I saw it requires switches to be soldered (by them or you). Hot-swappable switches is a must for me, specially at this price point. I guess my ergodox will have to last a bit longer until a proper replacement is found.

There is a purchasing option for non-soldered switches.

Yes, it just means you have to solder the switches yourself. From their website:

This is a special version of Glove80 meant for users intending to replace key switches. Soldering is required for this keyboard to function.

Re: Glove80 Ergonomic Keyboard

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I had severe problems with RSI many years ago, to the point where I thought I had to give up programming alltogether. I also got an ergonomic keyboard, which helped, and an argonomic pen-like mouse. However, I would say that even more important in getting rid of my problems was the use of a break program. It reminds me to take regular breaks, and prompts me to to stretches throuhgout the day. The combination of these…

When I (or to be more precise, when a colleague I was trying to pair program with) used them, these programs infuriated me to no end. Just when I was on to something, I got smacked in the face with a modal dialog. Perhaps things have improved over the years, but I could not imagine a user interface that would cater to both my physical and mental well-being.

I personally have it turned off, but smartwatches are good at notifying you with a slight vibration.
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