Battle of Hodów: When 400 Poles repelled 40,000 Tatars in 1694

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Post by redbell » Mon, Sep 04, 2023, 2:13 PM UTC

Battle of Hodów: When 400 Poles repelled 40,000 Tatars in 1694
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Re: Battle of Hodów: When 400 Poles repelled 40,000 Tatars in 1694

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Post by mateuszf » Mon, Sep 04, 2023, 2:31 PM UTC

As a Polish guy - I would not trust a single thing shown in the national propagandist TVP television.

It's really weird to see this on Hacker News.

Re: Battle of Hodów: When 400 Poles repelled 40,000 Tatars in 1694

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Post by glanzwulf » Mon, Sep 04, 2023, 2:34 PM UTC

mateuszf wrote: post #2

As a Polish guy - I would not trust a single thing shown in the national propagandist TVP television. It's really weird to see this on Hacker News.

Well, questionable original source aside, just went on a rabbithole in wikipedia reading about it. Or do you consider wikipedia also propagandist?

Re: Battle of Hodów: When 400 Poles repelled 40,000 Tatars in 1694

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Post by bloopernova » Mon, Sep 04, 2023, 2:35 PM UTC

Please forgive my ignorance, but how do you pronounce Hodów?

Re: Battle of Hodów: When 400 Poles repelled 40,000 Tatars in 1694

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Post by mateuszf » Mon, Sep 04, 2023, 2:37 PM UTC

glanzwulf wrote: post #3

mateuszf wrote: post #2

As a Polish guy - I would not trust a single thing shown in the national propagandist TVP television. It's really weird to see this on Hacker News.

Well, questionable original source aside, just went on a rabbithole in wikipedia reading about it. Or do you consider wikipedia also propagandist?

I'm not saying that the article is untrue. I'm not a historian. What I'm saying is that all content from this source should be treated with high skepticism.

Re: Battle of Hodów: When 400 Poles repelled 40,000 Tatars in 1694

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Post by robin_reala » Mon, Sep 04, 2023, 2:37 PM UTC

mateuszf wrote: post #2

As a Polish guy - I would not trust a single thing shown in the national propagandist TVP television. It's really weird to see this on Hacker News.

I recently enjoyed reading Henryk Sienkiewicz’s Trilogy,[1] which are rooted in history but with a thread of fervent nationalism running through them. Maybe it’s more palatable if it’s presented as fiction?

[1] https://standardebooks.org/collections/the-trilogy

Re: Battle of Hodów: When 400 Poles repelled 40,000 Tatars in 1694

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Post by sdfghswe » Mon, Sep 04, 2023, 2:37 PM UTC

bloopernova wrote: post #4

Please forgive my ignorance, but how do you pronounce Hodów?

What languages do you speak? If they overlap with mine I can find in those languages the correct sounds. They don't exist in English.

EDIT: what the other guy said, google translate is fine

Re: Battle of Hodów: When 400 Poles repelled 40,000 Tatars in 1694

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Post by mateuszf » Mon, Sep 04, 2023, 2:38 PM UTC

bloopernova wrote: post #4

Please forgive my ignorance, but how do you pronounce Hodów?

You can use google translate - it pronounces it correctly - https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=hod%C3%B3w&...

Re: Battle of Hodów: When 400 Poles repelled 40,000 Tatars in 1694

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Post by Etheryte » Mon, Sep 04, 2023, 2:39 PM UTC

Wikipedia also has a brief article on the matter, the writing style there might be a bit more neutral: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hod%C3%B3w

Re: Battle of Hodów: When 400 Poles repelled 40,000 Tatars in 1694

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Post by knapcio » Mon, Sep 04, 2023, 2:40 PM UTC

bloopernova wrote: post #4

Please forgive my ignorance, but how do you pronounce Hodów?

Maybe something like: hodoov