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Re: RadioShack’s new owner plots old comeback strategy

#51

Radioshack needs to jump on the Maker movement, Right To Repair movement, and science education movement. Offer everything from 3d printing classes to how to fix classes. By educating the masses, you create demand for your products you're selling.

I just need a single 100uF 100V Electrolytic NP Capacitor

(This was a reply to someone who replied to you, but they deleted their reply while I was writing. They had mentioned that online sellers will sell you single capacitors at decent prices but shipping is a killer)

Yeah, it is the shipping that is killer. You are doing some hobby project and find you need a capacitor or resistor that you don't have, and then you either order just what you need and pay 10x on shipping, or order a whole bunch of them hoping that someday you'll need them, or you find other things you also need or might need someday to add to your order.

It's particularly annoying when I just want a few cheap parts that are all thin, weigh practically nothing, and are not fragile. Why can't Mouser or DigiKey just toss them into an envelope, put a first class stamp on it, and mail it? I'd be willing to accept the risk and eat the loss if somehow the post office manages to break my resistors or capacitors.

What I've done for resistors and capacitors is order some kits that contains a bunch of them. I got a resister kit that has 860 resistors (10 each of the E12 values from 0 to 10M ohm), and a capacitor kit that has 645 capacitors that has a range of ceramic and electrolytic capacitors, with 30 each of the most common values and 10 each of the less common values.

I've also got a 600 transistor kit (15 common types, 40 each), and a 220 piece inductor kit (22 values, 10 each).

The particular kits I bought aren't available anymore, but as an example here's a currently available 1280 piece resistor kit for $11 [1].

The kits will probably have all the resistors, capacitors, inductors, and transistors I'll need for a while, and if I do end up using all of a particular value from one of the kits I'll then also know that is a value that is worth stocking up on.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Resistor-Assorted-Resistors-Assortmen...

Re: RadioShack’s new owner plots old comeback strategy

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Why? Because the shopping experience at all of those places is awful. RadioShack's advantages, where it had them, were in its convenience and its ergonomics. Get in, get what you want, browse a couple of human-scale shelves, pick up some batteries, and get out zippity-zap. Try doing that at Target.

The check out process at radio shack is infamously part of why people stopped going there - the insistence on getting a phone number or email address

And don't forget the battery-of-the-month club!

Re: RadioShack’s new owner plots old comeback strategy

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> I don't see this as a winning strategy. I can buy any of these items at a number of convenient locations, like Amazon, Target, Best Buy, and Walmart. Why would I choose RadioShack, especially when I don't have faith in their ability to price competitively? Moreover, that's just doubling down on the same business strategy that already ran the company into the ground. I can't imagine it's going to work any better thi…

Why? Because the shopping experience at all of those places is awful. RadioShack's advantages, where it had them, were in its convenience and its ergonomics. Get in, get what you want, browse a couple of human-scale shelves, pick up some batteries, and get out zippity-zap. Try doing that at Target.

Are Target shelves not “human-scale”? They’ve always seemed perfectly fine to me, and not especially different from my (distant) memories of RadioShack shelves.

Re: RadioShack’s new owner plots old comeback strategy

#54

It's a shame what happened to RadioShack. I liked them for hobby components. >Items will include “more end products than the stores have typically sold, focusing more on cellphone products, headphones, batteries and adapters, for instance.” I don't see this as a winning strategy. I can buy any of these items at a number of convenient locations, like Amazon, Target, Best Buy, and Walmart. Why would I choose RadioShack…

Wow that’s their plan? To just be another overpriced cellphone kiosk?

That’s what they were before they went out of business.

Re: RadioShack’s new owner plots old comeback strategy

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I think the best chance for RadioShack to make a comeback is to become the electronics store for small towns like the Dollar stores. If I live in the country why should I have to travel to the city to buy a laptop or a cell phone or even a big screen TV? The only success Sears had in the last thirty years were their small town stores which were franchised.

I live in the country and frequent the Dollar General for those little daily things. Jug of milk, a freezer pizza, some cat litter, a pack of beer and some hot dog buns. I don’t but these all at once in a single trip, I go there 3 or 4 times a week as I find I need them and forgot to purchase them at the grocery store a good trip away. That’s what a DG operates on, those daily needs close by. Closer than a Wal-Mart o…

Problem with Ace is that the prices are so high, that I'll drive the extra 10 minutes to elsewhere.

Re: RadioShack’s new owner plots old comeback strategy

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Micro Center has a terrible selection of Mini Desktop PCs and if some small outlet electronics outfit would start carrying Minisforum and Beelink Ryzen(BGA APU) based Mini Desktop PCs then I'd definitely be interested. But that's provided that I could get the system bare bones and supply my own memory and SSD.

Micro Center stopped carrying the ASRock X300 Desk Mini for any Ryzen 5000G(Socket Packaged) based desktop APU builds, and a very DIY friendly build that was good for there.

And AMD has stopped releasing G series Socket Packaged desktop APUs as there was no Ryzen 6000G or Ryzen 7000G Desktop APUs released! And so that's not good for any DIY Friendly Small Form Factor system builds like the InWin Chopin that can accommodate a Mini-ITX MB but the Chopin lacks the room for any dGPU to fit into the MB's PCIe slot, so small is that InWin Chopin's form factor. So Desktop APUs/SOCs with powerful iGPUs were what the InWin Chopin was designed in mind for there.

AMD's looking more toward OEMs and BGA Packaged APUs only there as some of the Radeon 7040HS series Mobile/BGA packaged APUs in Minisforum and BeeLink systems have been allotted up to 70W cTDPs on those supposedly "Mobile" BGA Packaged processors and that's more processor wattage than Ryzen 5000G(65W) was allotted.

But if one goes into any Micro Center their selection of Mini Desktop PCs and and Very Small form factor cases and low profile fans is just awful there. So I'd like a store that wold specialize in small form factor PCs and cases and low profile cooling solutions. And I'm more of a Bare Bones Mini desktop PC end user and I do hope that eventually AMD will offer some newer Socket Package APUs in the future for DIY friendly builds. Micro Center used to carry the InWin Chopin as well but they have since stopped carrying that.

So give me a Radio-Shack like entity that specializes in Very Small Form Factor Desktop PC systems and even Handheld Gaming devices like the Steam Deck and AyaNeo/Other gaming handhelds and all the accessories and do it yourself upgrade kits there.

Re: RadioShack’s new owner plots old comeback strategy

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"people will pay more to shop in person because they want the in-person support that our staff provide" is written on the gravestone of every dead retail company.

Only because they try to scale . Support doesn't scale. It's weakly profitable. It's specific to an area. It's slow. It requires workers with a bit of clue. Support is everything that modern business culture loathes .

Support scales fine. there's plenty of huge companies built around charging for support, all the way up to consulting companies like IBM and SAP.

support doesn't scale, or work at all as a business, if you aren't charging for it. if you're providing free support as a loss leader to get people to buy your stuff, people will take the free support and leave. it's nothing to do with scale.

Re: RadioShack’s new owner plots old comeback strategy

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I mean, Micro Center exists in some areas of the country (the one near to me is literally next to a Michaels). The reason it’s not everywhere is probably because there’s not as much demand outside of big cities.

I moved 2 years ago but before that I lived about 10m from a micro center for a decade. The hobbyist section in that time progressively got smaller and the selection was overtaken by branded expensive tools and kits. Like instead of just selling the cheap Chinese screwdriver set you could buy on Amazon for 9.99 they’d sell ifixit branded screwdrivers which appeared to be of the same build quality but with the brandin…

I knew when I moved from AZ to NC I was going to miss Fry's (RIP), I should have checked to see if there were any micro centers within a 50 mile radius when trying to figure out where to move.

Re: RadioShack’s new owner plots old comeback strategy

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It's a shame what happened to RadioShack. I liked them for hobby components. >Items will include “more end products than the stores have typically sold, focusing more on cellphone products, headphones, batteries and adapters, for instance.” I don't see this as a winning strategy. I can buy any of these items at a number of convenient locations, like Amazon, Target, Best Buy, and Walmart. Why would I choose RadioShack…

> I liked them for hobby components.

Can't you find those at places like Mouser? I thought there were better options for everything than at Radio Shack before they went under.

Re: RadioShack’s new owner plots old comeback strategy

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PCBs these days are like $5 per board from American makers like DKRed (Digikey's PCB service), with support for both 2x layer and 4x layer boards. Radio Shack will never be able to compete against DKRed (or OSHPark) from PCB making perspective. Even cheaper if you buy from China. Radio Shack would be best as a board-level hobbyist group: selling Teensy, Arduino, Beaglebones, Rasp. Pi... as well as wires and common co…

Don't most of those PCB places have a minimum number of copies of 3 or so? For nearly everything I've wanted to build I've only needed one. I end up using some kind of generic pre-made board like these [1] that mimics a common prototyping board or like these [2] that just have a bunch of groups of 3. I really wish wire wrap was still common. Wire wrap was actually more durable and reliable than PCBs, and for a lot of…

Well yeah, but back 15 years ago, it was $40 a board minimum copies 3 (or maybe $5 per board with $100 non-recurring engineering fee for a 2-layer board). Back when Radio Shack was big, people were doing hand-crafted PCBs by drawing out your traces with a permanent market and manually drilling holes into PCB-stock.

> I really wish wire wrap was still common. Wire wrap was actually more durable and reliable than PCBs, and for a lot of hobby projects would be easier and faster than designing a PCB and having it made. I wonder if there is a big enough hobbyist market for a wire wrap revival?

Wire wrap's main problem is that the wire-wrap sockets needed to make good, reliable contacts, are on the order of $1 each, so if you need to put like 5 chips on a board, you're well into "Might as well make a full custom 4-layer PCB", especially when you consider that SMT parts are so much more common these days.

But if you wanna talk Wire Wrap...

https://www.peconnectors.com/wire-wrap-sockets-and-headers/

https://www.vectorelect.com/terminals-wire-wrap.html

I know how to do that for sure. But... with PCBs so incredibly cheap these days, why bother? Its not like the $150+ days for a PCB, where $1 per socket, $10 wire-wrap boards and $0.10 per pin wire-wrap terminals were much cheaper than PCBs.

Today, its probably cheaper to order a PCB (even 3x copies) for $20 or whatever, and then throw away the other 2 copies, rather than getting into wire-wrap. The main benefit of wire-wrap is that if you've got a large collection of PCB parts + wire-wrap sockets, you can design and build a board today without waiting on stuff. But I wouldn't consider the wire-wrap way to be much cheaper.

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SMT for the most part has taken over through-hole in general (including wire-wrap). There's SMT-to-through hole stock boards you can keep, but I feel like learning KiCAD and just spending the $20 each time you wanna make a proper SMT board is the better idea.

The only exception is that through-hole can be built with stock parts in a "prestocked lab". If you want a "resistor book", a through-hole set of resistors + pre-made breadboard proto-boards is a good tool (especially if you have transistors, LEDs, Diodes, voltage regulators, and OpAmps).

You can solve a lot of problems by just combining simple things in a lab in half-an-hour... and then a few wires here and there to connect your doo-hicky to an Arduino or something is useful. Through hole remains a useful tool, although it'd be expensive to stock enough parts (resistor book, capacitor book, some trim-pots, LEDs, voltage regulators of various kinds, a few microcontrollers, breadboards, crimpers, connectors, etc. etc.) to get to this point.

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Anyway, I think the through-hole community has largely settled upon two kinds of boards:

1. "Xacto-knife" boards, like Vectorbord 8019 (https://www.vectorelect.com/8019-1.html), where you're supposed to cut the traces that are too long and make them into individual lines as needed.

2. "Pad-per-hole" boards, like Vectorbord 8003 (https://www.vectorelect.com/8003.html), where you'its intended for you to spill solder between lines that should be connected.

These two techniques are pretty good, but you still need to create wires between points in practice. Wirewrap can serve the job. And arguably, solder+wire is generally considered a bad idea (the solder can internally break before the more flexible copper breaks, so you end up making a less reliable connection than what's possible with wire-wrap)

But you'll find that the amount of opportunity to use wirewrap is still small per project, and it should be "just one technique" for making connections, not the main technique above all else. Soldering is probably the closest you have to a "bread and butter" skill that's used everywhere.

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