This is totally standard for all British music festivals since they were invented, don’t see what the drama is about.
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#212This is totally standard for all British music festivals since they were invented, don’t see what the drama is about.
The Black Rock Desert is way more remote (certainly from Reno, and possibly even from Gerlach) than any British music festival I've been to, I'd much rather get stuck in your average British mud than the lake-bed clay that's up there, and then there's the climate. I say this having been to both – they're very different.
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#213This is totally standard for all British music festivals since they were invented, don’t see what the drama is about.
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#214Have any lawsuits been filed yet?
Against who? God?
Against the organizers, probably, for organizing a large event with easily foreseeable risks that were not adequately mitigated.
Waivers and disclaimers are not a defense against negligently creating a risky situation.
Note I'm not saying I endorse this, just expecting it to happen based on the history of US civil law.
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#215Earlier quoted context omitted.
Against who? God?
Against the organizers, probably, for organizing a large event with easily foreseeable risks that were not adequately mitigated. Waivers and disclaimers are not a defense against negligently creating a risky situation. Note I'm not saying I endorse this, just expecting it to happen based on the history of US civil law.
> Waivers and disclaimers are not a defense against negligently creating a risky situation.
Yes they are. People know the risks and choose to go, it's that simple as far as I can see.
I think any case would be dismissed outright. Although IANAL so maybe not.
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#216Seems I made the right choice by not going this year!
Unless the reason you didn't go was due to possible rain, I would classify this under right decision wrong reason. Edit: I seem to have touched a soft spot lol.
You're downvoted because you chose to be pedantic about something that everyone, including the original poster, understood.
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#217What am I missing here? Flat walk in comfortable temps in a straight line. 5 miles with a bit of rain and some mud. I wouldn't do this in heels, but this doesn't seem life threatening
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#218Being in a desert during an El Niño season is a poor decision. It does rain occasionally and I don’t think people going to camp with a days worth of food in small tents understand the risk of a desert climate.
Also, it’s not that remote. Diplo and Chris Rock walked 5 miles out of the site and got picked up and driven back so while the situation does suck, it’s not like they are alone in the great white north 100 miles from civilization. It’s off a road only a few miles.
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#219Earlier quoted context omitted.
Against who? God?
Against the organizers, probably, for organizing a large event with easily foreseeable risks that were not adequately mitigated. Waivers and disclaimers are not a defense against negligently creating a risky situation. Note I'm not saying I endorse this, just expecting it to happen based on the history of US civil law.
A history of greed where people can claim ignorance until they are paid off.
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#220This is totally standard for all British music festivals since they were invented, don’t see what the drama is about.
Big rainfall in the desert can get pretty nasty. One reason (among others) is that a lot of deserts rest on caliche, which is a hard layer of clay-ish soil that doesn't absorb water very well. So instead of soaking into the ground, water flows over the ground, and that's how you get flash flooding.
In Black Rock specifically, they're also setting up camp on a literal dried-up lake bed, so when the playa floods it turns back into a huge, muddy lake.