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Microsoft is killing WordPad in Windows

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Re: Microsoft is killing WordPad in Windows

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Post by jwells89 »

Anon4Now wrote: post #213
avidiax wrote: post #101

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But who uses RTF? I can't recall ever receiving an RTF file. Scanning my drives, I've only found a single Readme RTF file in some old Windows utilities.

I haven't created an installer for a Windows desktop app in over 5 years, but it was a common format for the embedded EULA. It's not as important these days, but there was a huge file size difference between an RTF created in Wordpad vs Word.

The macOS installer app uses rtf/rtfd as its EULA/readme format as well.

In fact rtf usage is all over the place on Apple platforms. Cocoa/AppKit apps can take an rtf file to present in the app’s standard About window for credits/acknowledgments and if you want to present rich text with low hassle and resource consumption, by far the easiest way is to embed an NSTextView/UITextView with editing disabled which can then have a bundled rtf loaded into it trivially (just a couple lines of code).

A WebKit webview and HTML could be used instead in these instances, but that’s significantly more heavy and doesn’t have an OS-included WYSIWYG editor which makes it less friendly to e.g. non-technical team members whose job it might be to prepare the content being displayed.

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

kotaKat wrote: post #288
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #63

>There’s no reason to be outraged by this decision Actually, I have a reason to be outraged by this decision. I like using WordPad, and it will take me time and effort to find an adequate replacement for a simple note-taking application.

Rip C:\Program Files\Windows NT\Accessories and back it up somewhere. WordPad.exe is standalone. If you're running Win7+ you'll need the en-us/muis/etc, if you pull from an XP install wordpad.exe is all you'll ever need to do.

Thank you, that is the best advice I've seen so far in this thread.

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Post by xtracto »

404mm wrote: post #194
xmonkee wrote: post #62

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why not use the notes app? you get in built folders and shari g options too

Notes would be a total killer app if it supported Markdown.

I found notes-up when I moved to Linux mint. It supports markdown! Ans it doesn't change quotes like notes does .

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Post by somat »

zamadatix wrote: post #65
jaclaz wrote: post #38

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Thank you, though now I cannot anymore honestly state that MS did not introduce any new meaningful feature in Windows 10 ;).

I know you're being sarcastic but it also introduced the virtual desktop switcher, (full) DX12, made significant improvements to the console, added real ARM support for the desktop OS, replaced IE, implemented proper DPI support (all the way to per-monitor true fractional), added openssh, actual HDR support, and many more things that can be surprisingly hard to go without if you revert to a previous release. There is…

Yep openssh, the best thing microsoft did for windows 10 was to include openssh almost verbatim, rather than trying to make a native ssh. it does feel a bit foreign at times. but that is a good thing. can you imagine having to dig around in the windows trust store in order to make or use ssh keys. bust out regedit to change the config.... Shudder. Nope, it is perfect and works just like any other openssh install(within the limits of windows general weirdness)

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Post by forgotmypw17 »

mrob wrote: post #277
hilbert42 wrote: post #210

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"(by compiling it from source, or by using a ready-to-use version provided directly by the maintainers of the software itself, which is often, if not always, a possibility)," This is fine for those of us who know how to compile the source or find a ready-to-use version. Trouble is, I've often been in situations without updated sources being available and or where maintainers haven't been contactable. Ordinary users a…

If ordinary users don't want to learn they have the option of paying somebody to do it for them.

I think that there is a lot of room for compassion and donated time and effort here. I have helped family and friends adopt foss on many occasions, and it has been worth my time.

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Post by auroch »

icehawk wrote: post #135
housemusicfan wrote: post #131

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Correct. The Macintosh lineage was SimpleText IIRC.

Yeah TeachText, then SimpleText. You'd make the Read Me documents on classic Mac OS by changing the type of the file from 'ttxt' to 'ttro'

Actually, you changed the file type from 'TEXT' to 'ttro' to make a Read Me document read-only. 'ttxt' was the application signature of TeachText and SimpleText and is now the signature of TextEdit.

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Post by emodendroket »

bitvoid wrote: post #292
emodendroket wrote: post #251

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Electricity and computer hardware costs money so therefore no software is free and we can wrap up the whole discussion.

That's a false equivalency and you know it. When I pay for electricity and computer hardware, that money doesn't go to any software developer. When I pay for a Windows license, that money goes to Microsoft who maintain WordPad.

No, I don’t think it is. They’re throwing in something for free when you buy Windows.

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Post by prmoustache »

sixothree wrote: post #302
hulitu wrote: post #261

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> I know you're being sarcastic but it also introduced the virtual desktop switcher Which is a PITA to use, so useless. > , (full) DX12, made significant improvements to the console Cmd.exe is still the same > , added real ARM support for the desktop OS, Not relevant > replaced IE, Not fully. They still have it as a menu item in Edge > implemented proper DPI support (all the way to per-monitor true fractional), YMMV.…

cmd is pretty much deprecated in favor of powershell. And both have the best terminal application available on any OS.

Has Microsoft started to provide Kitty as the default terminal?

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Post by drzaiusapelord »

dagaci wrote: post #263
drzaiusapelord wrote: post #19

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Everything MS does is for the business case. Wordpad, windows, etc exist only in a capitalist context and need a financial justification to exist. It was there exactly for the reasons you state, to kill the word processor market in Windows. Previously you had all these other players but Win95 came with Wordpad for free which had a lot of functionality. For pros, you could buy Word. I don't think we appreciate how man…

Yes, Notepad, WordPad, Paint existed to have a baseline of utility and especially when selling a complete PC setup to customers in the 1990s: At a time when there was no internet! The PC sales guy could demo the customer fancy text-editing with fonts and colours, draw pictures and even print to dot matrix! right in the store. Today people like these minimal OS apps because they are simple, avoid bloat and feature cre…

Win95 was very much sold in the internet age. In fact, its large marketing push was mostly about how easy it was to get online.

We are not discussing 1985 here. By the mid to late 90s, internet access was greatly normalized.

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Post by mark-r »

This is a real shame. There's value in simple apps that come bundled with the OS and don't change for years. Wordpad is the simplest way I know to get a sample of a font. My workplace doesn't use Microsoft apps so there's absolutely no chance I'll be able to use their recommended replacement of Word.
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