Seems I made the right choice by not going this year!
Unless the reason you didn't go was due to possible rain, I would classify this under right decision wrong reason.
Edit: I seem to have touched a soft spot lol.
No way in or out of Burning Man after storm
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#193Folks, the article is breathless and ridiculous. As someone who is not there, but who has been there four times and run build lead for my camp... Rain is not unheard of. It's probably pretty muddy and less fun than it normally would be. Nobody is starving or dying of dehydration, and there is no danger of that. Most camps (and many people) have a huge surplus of supplies. Last time I was there, I drove out with a few…
The only thing breathless seems to be your response to the article. It seems like a pretty straightforward laying out of the facts along with official recommendations and statements.
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#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're there, shelter in place, and listen to people who are more experienced. This helps the medics. Typically many medical issues are straightforward to triage and treat with field kits. Then the medics ask the person's friends to drive the person to Reno for more in-depth care. Examples in my experience are twisted ankles, broken arms, alcohol sickness, dehydration, cardiac events, infections, lost prescription…
That is not a counterpoint. Counterpoint to what? Not sure where I said "don't shelter in place". Not sure where I said "don't listen to people more experienced". All I said is that nobody is going to starve or die of dehydration because they ran out of food/water. I stand behind that.
I’m not clear where the article says people are going to starve or die or dehydration.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
Against who? God?
Old man yells at mud
All hail the Mud Wizard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9l3bLAx4Ng
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#196Have any lawsuits been filed yet?
Against who? God?
Pretty sure there's going to be more than a few against the organizers, and maybe the authorities for allowing it to go through despite the forecasts and not getting people out fast enough. Which is ironic considering the general (or at least loudest) philosophy of Burning Man goers is one of laissez-faire techno libertarianism
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#197Those climate protesters who tried to blockade the entrance are probably laughing now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8fDM60MS84 (Though it seems unlikely that a particular rainstorm could be attributed to climate change.)
I watched the vid, idk how I feel now. The protestors appear to have been illegally protesting. I really know nothing about it apart from what was in the vid. Having said that, the/some people going to Burning Man, didn't seem like very nice people either. I get that blocking the road isn't cool at the best of times, but feel this could've been handled better. I'm not from the US, so had no clue who Rangers are (are…
illegally protesting
gasps!
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#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
Breaking a leg isn't serious if medical transportation is available, and it sounds like it is.
breaking a leg or arm can be lethal due to immediate complications or emergent complications due to lack of prompt evaluation and treatment.
Sure, but that is not the common situation.
One advantage of everything being deep intractable mud - mud is soft! So less chance of compound fractures from a fall at least.
Though vehicle recovery is going to be epic. And that is a good way to break/kill people if not done very carefully.
I’ve seen (very expensive) vehicles end up completely destroyed and abandoned when someone wandered a bit too far out into a surprisingly wet/soft lakebed (around Ballarat/Trona - I can still see it on Google Maps, and it got stuck well over 20 years ago!), so I imagine we’ll have plenty of stories of drama to snack on popcorn over when this is all said and done.
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#199Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It'll dry up and be like it never happened in no time. With more rain slated for today and Sunday, and the fact that it ends on Monday, I wouldn't be so optimistic.
I live in Utah and have spent a lot of time on and around dry like beds. They do not “dry up quickly”. A quarter inch under the crust is likely going to be mud for weeks or months. Some vehicles might be fine but heavy ones are in deep $&@! until they are recovered. Just my uninformed opinion.
Yup. Going to be a lot of rental RV’s that ‘are not going to Burning Man, we promise!’ abandoned out there.
Fun times!
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#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It'll dry up and be like it never happened in no time. With more rain slated for today and Sunday, and the fact that it ends on Monday, I wouldn't be so optimistic.
I didn't say it would dry up today, I said it'll dry up quickly when the rain stops.
Dry lake beds/playas tend to work differently. The caliche/clay tends to crust over and keep the fun, nasty goo around just under the surface for a lot longer than anyone expects. If someone goes out onto it, they can break through into stuff that doesn’t support any weight.
Kind of like if it was thin ice, but it’s actually (mildly) caustic mud.
That said, never tested this on that specific playa. It’s also usually somewhat location dependent even within a specific lakebed.
Don’t be surprised though if it takes months (next year? If there are followup storms) for some of these vehicles to be extracted.