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PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

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Re: PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

#121

It's not just Discord. Don't ever base your business on the whims of another business under which you have no recourse whatsoever.

What would an instance or instances of businesses you do have recourse over? I'd argue that for many businesses, your advice is effectively impossible to follow, no matter how well-intentioned it is.

The idea is to have a backup scheme.

My experience as an aerospace engineer always having a backup has seeped into my everyday life.

Re: PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

#122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are nearly 100,000 ASNs. Some are very small. An ASN is enough to identify a user's ISP - enough for someone significantly more malicious than you to, say, social engineer an ISP, report players to their ISP for "hacking" a site, or start correlating with their visitors. What we're also missing is the context. Did you share the ASNs for the purposes of, say, debugging a network connection? For statistical purpo…

Showing an ISP is NOT personal information, full stop. If I say *Comcast* are you going to be able to track me down? No. There are millions of Comcast subscribers. Even if it was an ISP of 1 customer, that still isn't personal information. If the ISP happens to leak the customer information from social engineering, that's on the ISP, not me. All ASNs are considered to be public information. You are required by intern…

The list of ASNs is public info. The ASN currently used by a group of people is not. It's location info for those people.

> You are required by internet registry rules to be listed in a public database for everyone to see.

No. The list of all ASNs are.

I think you need to take "information connected to people" more seriously and if this is the way it has to happen, that's not the worst outcome for you.

Re: PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

#123
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If you are relying on a third party social media platform for your business: - make sure you have at least 3 aged accounts that have full administrative privileges. When one gets banned make/buy a new one immediately. - never use a business account for personal reasons - use a third party service for the sms verification, and a unique email for each account. These three rules have kept me out of trouble in spite of r…

The only reason this works is they haven't taken you seriously yet. Sooner or later they will just ban all of them at once. Correlating them really isn't hard.

Re: PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

#125
I worked for a company that used Discord as the main internal coms tool. Aside the privacy and infosec concerns, staff would get suspended and quarantined often. And not for messages, but for things like using multiple accounts for business needs out of one machine/IP (like over VPN).

I think that even to this day, verifying multiple accounts with one phone number raises red flags for Discord. It's just built as an end-user product, not fit for business needs.

We would always be anxious around meeting externals or release dates for our sw because Discord could knock staff offline at any moment.

Don't use it for anything serious. Not as it is in 2023. Things could change in the future.

Re: PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

#126

So discord is something I use for voice-chatting and shitposting with friends, typically while also playing video games. Can anyone tell me why they would ever use it for anything remotely serious? Can you tell me why you'd want to stake your livelihood on a walled garden designed for video game voice chat and sharing rickroll videos? Not only that, I can't take seriously a business that uses discord. Like, what are…

Midjourney is a great example: Discord offers a customer base of potentially hundreds of millions of individual people using it to generate and send images to one another.

You seem very dismissive of it, but what about businesses running on other chat platforms like Whatsapp, WeChat, QQ, etc?

Sure, it CAN be fulfilled by anything else, but is that where your customers are?

Re: PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

#127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Discord, meanwhile, grew out of some combination of gaming/tech IRC servers For the record this is exactly where Slack came from as well. From Wikipedia: > Slack originated as an internal communication tool used within Stewart Butterfield's company, Tiny Speck, during their work on the development of Glitch, an online game. These communication tools were initially built around the Internet Relay Chat (IRC) protocol…

> However, in May 2018, the company chose to close down these corresponding gateways due to limitations inherent in those protocols. It was a way to onboard tech people and once they were big enough they closed the door for those audience. Which really hurt me because i live in a country with a small tech community and was happily interacting with them using irc, until slack changed into a walled garden.

In fairness, can you imagine implementing all of Slack's features over IRC? Nightmare.

Re: PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

#129
My discord server was flagged as "offensive" and removed from public listings without giving a clear reason why. It took me weeks to accidentally discover the cause, which was the name of a channel: #bugs-minor. Renaming it to #bugs removed the flagged status.

Re: PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

#130

Do. Not. Launch. On Discord. They are getting worse and worse towards their users. The “platform” was never designed for this, it’s painfully obvious. There’s no knowledge base, no support system, no sense of organization, no professionalism, just bots doing “stuff” as a product. Is FastAPI that hard? Is building a customer portal that difficult? I guess I’m showing my age but I use discord for gaming and chatting wi…

> However, the UX of discord is problematic towards anything other than a gaming community.

Discord was built with a core target market and really they've nailed it. But I really have to wonder what a business is doing when they have their support chat or whatever on discord. I have no idea why someone thinks a chat platform that talks about school clubs, gaming groups, and art communities is the place to conduct business. To me, it's a bit of a red flag when a company chooses a tool that is clearly not designed for business and doesn't even try to pretend like it is when there are tons that are.

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