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New OpenStreetMap tiles from Stamen: water color, black and white, terrain

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Re: New OpenStreetMap tiles from Stamen: water color, black and white, terrain

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When I first looked at OpenStreetMap a couple years ago I dismissed it solely because I didn't like the tile design. But now I see more and more really beautiful designs popping up (e.g. also those from http://mapbox.com/ ) and I expect OSM to gain a lot of importance in the next years (overtaking Google Maps maybe?). These 3rd-party tile designs a beautiful example of how much more can be done with data that's truly…

Once everyone uses OSM, won't it be prohibitively expensive for a non-profit to serve it? Wikipedia says no, but that may be an outlier. IMO they should start internalizing costs (especially for embedded maps) now before they get out of control, perhaps by throttling access so that high-volume users are encouraged to mirror and serve the data themselves. Coral CDN has a similar strategy: you can use it for free, but…

It's not clear if the 'they' in your statement is referring to OSM or a hypothetical non-profit, but, if OSM, they've always done this, I believe.

There are plenty of big users of OSM based tiles that would easily take down the OSM servers, so they have to either host their own or use some third-party to do so (MapQuest is surprisingly popular here, since they have capacity to spare and they'll serve OSM tiles up to some limit before starting to charge).

"OpenStreetMap data is free for everyone to use. Our tile servers are not."

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tile_usage_policy

Re: New OpenStreetMap tiles from Stamen: water color, black and white, terrain

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Once everyone uses OSM, won't it be prohibitively expensive for a non-profit to serve it? Wikipedia says no, but that may be an outlier. IMO they should start internalizing costs (especially for embedded maps) now before they get out of control, perhaps by throttling access so that high-volume users are encouraged to mirror and serve the data themselves. Coral CDN has a similar strategy: you can use it for free, but…

It's not clear if the 'they' in your statement is referring to OSM or a hypothetical non-profit, but, if OSM, they've always done this, I believe. There are plenty of big users of OSM based tiles that would easily take down the OSM servers, so they have to either host their own or use some third-party to do so (MapQuest is surprisingly popular here, since they have capacity to spare and they'll serve OSM tiles up to…

Ah, I see they're ahead of me. But that policy is pretty vague about what heavy use means.

Re: New OpenStreetMap tiles from Stamen: water color, black and white, terrain

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Loved the watercolor tile.

And a plea to HN folks: I am working on a project, and it will be great if someone can point me to a way to dynamically apply such a filter to vector derived solid color images.

I am thinking of running a GIMP server, but I find the plugins available limiting. I have very limited image processing experience, and this was not a major part of the product, so had put it on the backburner. I will have access to the edges/ vector images, so there is no need for accurate edge detection- but such organic edges would add a lot if there is a way to do it.

Re: New OpenStreetMap tiles from Stamen: water color, black and white, terrain

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Really, gorgeous work. The "Toner" version is really well done and incredibly useful for anybody who needs to laser print / xerox a ton of maps. I can tell the server's choking right now so I'm going to stop playing with it, but I wanted to say the design choices here are truly excellent in balancing level of detail with readability. Great job.

Re: New OpenStreetMap tiles from Stamen: water color, black and white, terrain

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In another case where users have been trained by google product methodologies: I just got pissed because scrolling my mouse wheel doesn't zoom.

The map framework they are using supports mouse wheel zoom but i think they chose not to use it so you could use your scroll wheel to scroll the page.

Re: New OpenStreetMap tiles from Stamen: water color, black and white, terrain

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When I first looked at OpenStreetMap a couple years ago I dismissed it solely because I didn't like the tile design. But now I see more and more really beautiful designs popping up (e.g. also those from http://mapbox.com/ ) and I expect OSM to gain a lot of importance in the next years (overtaking Google Maps maybe?). These 3rd-party tile designs a beautiful example of how much more can be done with data that's truly…

OpenStreetMap pays to host tiles that are intended to be used by mappers. Ideally you would use one of the other providers (MapQuest Open, MapBox, make your own, etc.) if you are releasing a product that doesn't directly relate to improving the OSM map data.

Re: New OpenStreetMap tiles from Stamen: water color, black and white, terrain

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When I first looked at OpenStreetMap a couple years ago I dismissed it solely because I didn't like the tile design. But now I see more and more really beautiful designs popping up (e.g. also those from http://mapbox.com/ ) and I expect OSM to gain a lot of importance in the next years (overtaking Google Maps maybe?). These 3rd-party tile designs a beautiful example of how much more can be done with data that's truly…

"Everyone" won't ever use OSM - its license is prohibitively restrictive for a lot of uses.

It's great for anyone that don't want to combine it with data they can't release, but for anyone that needs to mash it up with proprietary data, it's a non-starter by design. I think a lot of people don't realize this, as I've seen more than one company use OSM data in ways that either puts them in conflict with the license or will force them to open data they've previously been very protective of...

But as others have noted, most people will need to host themselves or pay someone to host it for them once they reach certain thresholds.

(disclosure: I've got an interest in a company in the GIS space that can't use OSM data exactly because of the license, so I do have a vested interest in it)

Re: New OpenStreetMap tiles from Stamen: water color, black and white, terrain

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Love to see creative renderings of maps, especially OSM data!

The texture of the 'watercolour' option is very impressive, but (to be critical) I wonder about the usefulness of it without labels and with the fuzziness of roads (some stop then start again, some meld into others which actually don't meet).

I love the toner option though :) Fantastic!

And the terrain map is great too. Certaintly easier to get a grip on than the OSM cyclemap (contour lines).

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