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Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Post by Balgair »

Animats wrote: post #108

The live webcam from Burning Man is still up. https://burningman.org/live-webcast/ The camera rotates randomly once in a while, so you can see everything. Not raining much, if at all. Some mud. Overcast. Maybe 75 people total are wandering around in the mud. A few random art installations. Everybody else is probably in the big RV park. Looks boring, but not dangerous.

https://bmir.org/

The Burning Man radio station, live on playa. I think they're right next to the livecam this year, but am not sure.

If you'd like up to date-ish info on the scene, BMIR is a good enough resource. Seems that most Burners are resigned to getting out on Tuesday at this point.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Post by stickfigure »

llamaimperative wrote: post #154
darkclouds wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll have about 250k people at Glastonbury, but there is alot to do at Glastonbury having been a few times, so 70k sounds rather cosy, which seems so unusual for the US which normally does things bigger and better. Going to Burning Man is something on my bucket list, which is why your comment surprised me, how can you say its peaked?

80% of the time when someone says an event peaked it’s because they’ve aged out of the event or the event evolved in a way that wasn’t to their liking. You should totally go if you get a chance, but to be clear Burning Man is not a music festival a la Glasto. It’s much more of an art festival than anything else, and it’s really spectacular. Also just ignore the lore around anti-capitalism, eco friendly yada yada. It’…

It is possible to have the opinion that burning man is great and also that it has hit the upper bound of popularity.

This year was different - it was super easy to get tickets, often at steep discount. I don't see why next year will be different, especially with horror stories getting off the playa this year.

This is a good thing! If you want to go, now you can.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Post by trogdor »

zerbinxx wrote: post #166
wingworks wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I watched the vid, idk how I feel now. The protestors appear to have been illegally protesting. I really know nothing about it apart from what was in the vid. Having said that, the/some people going to Burning Man, didn't seem like very nice people either. I get that blocking the road isn't cool at the best of times, but feel this could've been handled better. I'm not from the US, so had no clue who Rangers are (are…

Rangers are basically “the cops” of BLM land, so if there’s an issue they’re the ones who will show up. In general these guys do the best with what they’ve got and they probably hate BM and all the hassle it brings. A normal weekend in rural Nevada requires maybe a call about a rancher’s lost livestock or a normal patrol route. These guys are certainly ill equipped to handle 70k outsiders showing up for a week, and p…

I have met many BLM Rangers at Burning Man. Nearly all were super-into the event, and many had specifically requested the assignment.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Post by jakderrida »

zerbinxx wrote: post #165
jakderrida wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I don't disagree with you at all, the majority of burners are probably not well supplied build leads for their own camps. I went last year and while I was very well supplied and had a large RV with my own solar-powered refrigerator, I met up with friends that were not as wealthy and probably fit the typical profile for burners. They stayed in a tent, were at a camp with a centralized power source with a somewha…

Which is why the “radical self-reliance” thing is so ironic/sad in this situation. Most people aren’t there for that, despite the warnings that RSR is part of the deal, the fact is that anyone who’s particularly interested in that kind of experience is already solo backpacking or something this weekend.

Damn... I am man enough to concede that you just Uno-Reversed my argument. You even had the sense not to introduce new thoughts that I could potentially attack out of spitefulness. Extra points, even, because the fact that I didn't think of it first undermines the fact that I attended it last year since I obviously didn't read the principles. I'm more impressed than insulted, btw.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Post by riezebos »

p1mrx wrote: post #90

Those climate protesters who tried to blockade the entrance are probably laughing now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8fDM60MS84 (Though it seems unlikely that a particular rainstorm could be attributed to climate change.)

There is a peer-reviewed method to attribute extreme events to climate change. It was used successfully to attribute some heat waves and floods in Europe this year to climate change: https://ascmo.copernicus.org/articles/6/177/2020/ascmo-6-177...

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Post by 1letterunixname »

civilitty wrote: post #38
et-al wrote: post #4

Fortunately all the participants embraced radial self-reliance, right?

90% of people way overpack for Burning Man to the point where I stopped bringing food the last few years I attended. No one will go hungry, not even the dumbest of sparkle ponies. I wager there's enough food on the playa right now to last at least another two weeks, maybe a month with even a modicum of rationing. The camps I frequent would end up splitting up the left over alcohol the morning of exodus. The drugs on…

Without drugs, some Burners' happiness now is entirely dependent on solar panels and gas generators for mood music. Tie the vintage scarf to the door latch.

And, yes, some of us Americans will never starve even if food prices go up 10,000%. I wouldn't doubt Home Depot and Costco stocks blip up for the quarter due to the vast "non-consumerism" consumerism preceding said event.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Post by darkclouds »

llamaimperative wrote: post #154
darkclouds wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll have about 250k people at Glastonbury, but there is alot to do at Glastonbury having been a few times, so 70k sounds rather cosy, which seems so unusual for the US which normally does things bigger and better. Going to Burning Man is something on my bucket list, which is why your comment surprised me, how can you say its peaked?

80% of the time when someone says an event peaked it’s because they’ve aged out of the event or the event evolved in a way that wasn’t to their liking. You should totally go if you get a chance, but to be clear Burning Man is not a music festival a la Glasto. It’s much more of an art festival than anything else, and it’s really spectacular. Also just ignore the lore around anti-capitalism, eco friendly yada yada. It’…

This YT video from 2019 seems like a good explainer.

It does attract some good DJ's though, I mean a $3-8m 70KW moving sound system/dance floor seems pretty awesome, aka the Mayan Warrior.

https://youtu.be/QRbC3GPW1HI?t=1290

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Post by defrost »

In news just in:

Burning Man: Police investigating death during heavy rain

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66700006

    An investigation has been launched into the death of a person during torrential rain at the Burning Man festival in the US state of Nevada.

    No further details have been given about the circumstances of their death.

    In a statement on Saturday, the Pershing County Sheriff's Office said it is "currently investigating a death which occurred during this rain event", and that the person's family had been notified.
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