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PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

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Re: PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

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Post by slau »

bottiger1 wrote: post #7
slau wrote: post #4

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It was deleted by the discord support. I presume it was deleted when I got banned. I don't have a screenshot of what it was before because there is no way to log all activity on discord, nor did I expect to get banned. You can confirm the contents of the message from the people talking about it here https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F49XZ4zaEAErD3J?format=png&name=... And yes this is also a campaign to get my account unban…

Is there any chance someone reported you (the message, more specifically) for doxxing?

I use Discord with a variety of clients, and there’s _a lot_ of technical logs, including lists of locations, and in some cases even addresses. I’ve never had an issue. I also run a small community of a few thousand users, and haven’t seen anything like this… unless someone was reported.

In any case, commiserations, and I hope you weren’t the only owner/admin of some servers.

Re: PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

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Post by bottiger1 »

slau wrote: post #21
bottiger1 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was deleted by the discord support. I presume it was deleted when I got banned. I don't have a screenshot of what it was before because there is no way to log all activity on discord, nor did I expect to get banned. You can confirm the contents of the message from the people talking about it here https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F49XZ4zaEAErD3J?format=png&name=... And yes this is also a campaign to get my account unban…

Is there any chance someone reported you (the message, more specifically) for doxxing? I use Discord with a variety of clients, and there’s _a lot_ of technical logs, including lists of locations, and in some cases even addresses. I’ve never had an issue. I also run a small community of a few thousand users, and haven’t seen anything like this… unless someone was reported. In any case, commiserations, and I hope you…

Yes it is very possible. I have also posted asns in private channels before and nothing ever happened. It was only after I posted it in a public channel that I got banned.

There are a few competitors that are really jealous of our success.

Re: PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

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Post by version_five »

I'm super risk averse so I would never build a business around a single point of failure like that - but I know that there is money to be made taking this risk (at least VC money, presumably real money). Look at everybody building off OpenAI, look at AWS, Shopify, etc. I'll never base my business around a platform, but I'll miss out on many opportunities, even if it's a big risk.

All that to say the warning won't stop people.

Re: PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

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Post by bottiger1 »

slau wrote: post #20
rat9988 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“don’t base your business around x” this is a logical conclusion when you get no support from the company. The rest of your edit isn't logical either. When a business stop doing business for you, you deem it unreliable. If x has been banned without recourse without doing anything that would be, obviously wrong, I would deem it unreliable.

My point was that this did not look like a business. It looked like a gaming server.

It is related to gaming, but we handle large amounts of money to keep our servers running, as well as providing revenue to Discord in the form of "boosts". It should be relevant to people running startups here.

Re: PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

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Post by bottiger1 »

jrockway wrote: post #18
bottiger1 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok and what if randomly one day they get banned? They lose 90% of their customers that don't want to move off Discord?

I doubt that Discord is the driver behind their success. They could have used IRC and people would go out of their way to engage with them because what they're doing was so interesting at the time. If they get banned from Discord, the vast majority of the community will move to wherever they go. This is a different situation than something like app stores where if Apple bans you, that's the end of your company. Users…

That might have been true before, but there are viable competitors popping up.

Re: PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

#28

Post by ivanmontillam »

I've always been wary of adopting Discord, at all.

Every time I see a business inviting me to a Discord, I feel like I'm putting myself in a position to be mistreated either by the platform or by the company inviting me. I feel like they don't quite understand sound business principles like Platform Risk.

If keeping up the business afloat is your mission as a business owner, why'd you base your business off a platform you don't control? You might assume a Platform Risk, and be fully aware of it (and in the meantime, capture the capital to have your own platform or contract services from another platform less volatile), or you might not be aware of it at all, or if you're aware, you just play dumb and say "it won't be a problem, that happens to others, not to me".

I just get discouraged, I never end up joining these Discord communities and I don't buy the product/service the company is selling, I feel it distasteful.

In these SaaS days where providers can get away with not having a proper Support department or they are too big for you to go ahead and sue them face-to-face... why'd you put your neck on the line this way? It feels so needless.

Re: PSA: Don't base your business around Discord.7yr account banned for posting ASNs

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Post by gruez »

ivanmontillam wrote: post #28

I've always been wary of adopting Discord, at all. Every time I see a business inviting me to a Discord, I feel like I'm putting myself in a position to be mistreated either by the platform or by the company inviting me. I feel like they don't quite understand sound business principles like Platform Risk. If keeping up the business afloat is your mission as a business owner, why'd you base your business off a platfor…

>Every time I see a business inviting me to a Discord, I feel like I'm putting myself in a position to be mistreated either by the platform or by the company inviting me. I feel like they don't quite understand sound business principles like Platform Risk.

>If keeping up the business afloat is your mission as a business owner, why'd you base your business off a platform you don't control? [...]

Why is discord any different than other platforms like office365 or AWS? Do you feel the same about companies using those platforms as well?

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