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No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Post by uoaei »

zerbinxx wrote: post #109
DirkH wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those words have meanings. Look them up it you don't understand them. They're well used in this context to get the author's point across. I dunno if I agree with the author. I've never been to Burning Man, but their word usage certainly helps me - a casual onlooker - better understand their frustration.

I wouldn’t be critiquing their choice of words if I didn’t know what they mean. In general flippant is a word that describes attitudes or actions, not a toxic death cloud.

Miasma used here as imagery for rhetorical effect. It really is like a toxic cloud of cultural assumptions and impositions that has choked out a lot of the folks who built the foundation of what makes Burning Man what it is, and not just some festival to wear sparkly clothes and take pictures for Instagram. Not to mention all the money that descends on the event to install shortcuts and cash grabs in an otherwise moneyless, DIY, BYOEverything space.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Post by uoaei »

bhhaskin wrote: post #60
uoaei wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Burning Man is in Nevada 2. Technically it's not even in Nevada, it's in the Pyramid Lake Paiute Indian Reservation 3. Kind of the entire point of Burning Man is that you are raising a city out of nothing and breaking it down again within the span of a couple weeks against all odds and in one of the least hospitable places on the planet. This is by design. As a participant you are given ample information and time…

It isn't on the Reservation. It is BLM land. Parts of the road (state route) out there are on the Reservation.

That's right. I read somewhere it was held in trust by BLM for the tribe but researching again I can't tell if that specific area is part of the laws that were passed or if it just belongs to BLM outright.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Post by llamaimperative »

darkclouds wrote: post #150
stickfigure wrote: post #120

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Burning man has peaked. This year there were tons of people trying to sell their ticket at discount. Some friends were giving away tickets. I don't think we will see the same demand again. Which is good - 70k people is more than enough. Next year, just watch craigslist or fb marketplace a month beforehand.

You'll have about 250k people at Glastonbury, but there is alot to do at Glastonbury having been a few times, so 70k sounds rather cosy, which seems so unusual for the US which normally does things bigger and better. Going to Burning Man is something on my bucket list, which is why your comment surprised me, how can you say its peaked?

80% of the time when someone says an event peaked it’s because they’ve aged out of the event or the event evolved in a way that wasn’t to their liking.

You should totally go if you get a chance, but to be clear Burning Man is not a music festival a la Glasto. It’s much more of an art festival than anything else, and it’s really spectacular.

Also just ignore the lore around anti-capitalism, eco friendly yada yada. It’s a really sick party for super rich people and the artists they patronize.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Post by zerbinxx »

uoaei wrote: post #151
zerbinxx wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn’t be critiquing their choice of words if I didn’t know what they mean. In general flippant is a word that describes attitudes or actions, not a toxic death cloud.

Miasma used here as imagery for rhetorical effect. It really is like a toxic cloud of cultural assumptions and impositions that has choked out a lot of the folks who built the foundation of what makes Burning Man what it is, and not just some festival to wear sparkly clothes and take pictures for Instagram. Not to mention all the money that descends on the event to install shortcuts and cash grabs in an otherwise mon…

I understand the usage of miasma, but flippant is just not a normal modifier for that noun.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Post by Gibbon1 »

UmYeahNo wrote: post #2

The article paints a pretty dire picture. Having never been to that part of the world, is the nearest place that could support Reno? I assume this would need a post-hurricane type support airdrop of supplies?

There isn't any food or sales at the event so everyone packs enough for a week. Which really means people pack for two weeks. People also bring enough water for a week of 100 degree weather. But it's not that.

Friend had a rubbermaid food bin he used for camping. One time on a walkabout he decided to eat all of it and see how long it lasted him. Lasted three weeks.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Post by wingworks »

p1mrx wrote: post #90

Those climate protesters who tried to blockade the entrance are probably laughing now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8fDM60MS84 (Though it seems unlikely that a particular rainstorm could be attributed to climate change.)

I watched the vid, idk how I feel now. The protestors appear to have been illegally protesting. I really know nothing about it apart from what was in the vid. Having said that, the/some people going to Burning Man, didn't seem like very nice people either.

I get that blocking the road isn't cool at the best of times, but feel this could've been handled better.

I'm not from the US, so had no clue who Rangers are (are they like police?). To me, at first they looked like hire a cop from the festival. While it looked like the first Ranger truck started a dialog, another decided to go a more violent route. There are a few cuts in the vid there, so it's not clear how long dialog was tried or what happened during that time and how justified the violent end was.

Coming from a country where police are generally pretty chill unless really provoked, how this was ended seemed extreme to me.

The comments in the vid kinda scare me tbh. It'll all fun and games, till you're at the receiving end, or someone dies.

Re: No way in or out of Burning Man after storm

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Post by standardUser »

The people I've talked to there are mostly worried about missed flights and missed days of work and are otherwise totally fine. Next time we chat I'll ask about the bathroom situation! Though I suppose if push comes to shove you can always dig holes for a couple days.
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