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Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

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Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

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As an active mushroom hunter (born in Russia), can confirm that this is extremely unlikely and uncommon. People who have done this since birth know how distinguish between mushrooms, and usually stick to the variety that they love the best. In Russia, the mushroom of choice is the "White Mushroom" (or Porcini, King Bolete) or Rejik (Milky cap) and Chanterreles, and a few others, and that's it, with the top 2 being th…

On the other hand - routine kills

Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

#92

This is not really suspicious. I regularly went foraging for shrooms in Ukraine with my gram gram, but I was not allowed to pick anything, of course. It requires expertise. In that part of the world, this is very common, and so are the cases of people poisoning themselves because they think they are good at it. If you can't relate - think of all the "gun people" who think they are experts on gun safety and then they…

This is not an accurate take. It does not require some great expertise to identify edible mushrooms, and in cultures where mushroom consumption has been common for hundreds of years (such as Russia), basic identification techniques are well known.

There are some edible mushrooms with poisonous look alikes - there are plenty other edible mushrooms without those deadly cousins. If this gentleman had made it 70+ years without issue, it is rather unlikely he would have some issue now.

As the saying goes: there are old foragers and bold foragers, but there are not old and bold foragers.

Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

#93

As an active mushroom hunter (born in Russia), can confirm that this is extremely unlikely and uncommon. People who have done this since birth know how distinguish between mushrooms, and usually stick to the variety that they love the best. In Russia, the mushroom of choice is the "White Mushroom" (or Porcini, King Bolete) or Rejik (Milky cap) and Chanterreles, and a few others, and that's it, with the top 2 being th…

> How did the he die?

> From mushroom poisoning

> But… there’s a bullet hole in his head..

> He refused to eat the mushrooms

(Joke from 1980’s, Eastern Europe)

Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

#94

As an active mushroom hunter (born in Russia), can confirm that this is extremely unlikely and uncommon. People who have done this since birth know how distinguish between mushrooms, and usually stick to the variety that they love the best. In Russia, the mushroom of choice is the "White Mushroom" (or Porcini, King Bolete) or Rejik (Milky cap) and Chanterreles, and a few others, and that's it, with the top 2 being th…

On the other hand - routine kills

On the other hand - Putin kills too.

Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

#95
Perhaps not every death is intentional, but with many intentional deaths, unintentional ones will sometimes be grouped in, and the intentional deaths must affect moral which will affect the number of quality people willing to step up into roles, allowing for lower quality people stepping up causing lower quality outcomes until everything is a shell of its former self. Killing people for bad results seems to be a losing proposition.

Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's like few cases per season per million people eating wild shrooms.

How many millions of people go mushroom hunting?

Probably many millions? It's a pretty popular thing to do in Eastern Europe.

Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

#97

I love the internet. The first two comments for me: 1) "As an active mushroom hunter, this is extremely unlikely and uncommon, this sounds like foul play. 2) I regularly go foraging in this region, this is extremely common and nothing suspicious.

Yeah, after a few years of Reddit, I started calling this kind of thing "internet advice"... ok for a discussion, but often contradictory or wrong (if I happen to know the topic in depth).

For example, people give advice to grown men and women about how to proceed with their divorce or financial planning. Lots of up votes to lend credibility.... but if you dig into their history, the advice giver is 14 years old according to their other posts on other subreddits.

No disrespect to the people here. Just saying...

Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

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Definitely could be foul play, but I’ve also known a few older Russians who were very proud of their mushroom foraging skills.

At 77 years, he certainly knew what he's picking up, it's not that hard to learn edible mushrooms, poisonous mushrooms and ignore the rest which may be edible but also not.

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Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

#99
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Is Russia running out of windows or what?

Prigozhin fell from the sky in a plane so at least that one was still a fall. This isn’t even trying. I’m just blown away by the gullible fools who see this dying totalitarian dystopia with statistics around birth and family life that are way worse than anything in the West as a beacon of resistance to decadence or something. Of course I guess this isn’t new with Russia. Back in the Cold War it was naive elements of…

There are left apologists for Russia too. Jeffrey Sachs, Chomsky (he is doing it again, defending tyrants).

Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you make it sound more exotic than it is. People pick mushrooms around the world. Slightly more common in SE-Europe, a bit less so than a few decades ago. People tend to stick to the 1-2 species they know best, poisonings are extremely rare.

Fair point, but I am surprised to hear that. My US friends (New England) have been extremely surprised when they hear that foraging for mushrooms is common where I come from (on the rare occasions when this comes up).

It is also pretty common in parts of the US. They probably don't know about that either. I know people who go morel hunting every spring in the midwest (Iowa and Illinois, specifically).

https://www.thegreatmorel.com/regional-morels-midwest-region....

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