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Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

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Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they think dangerous advice on mushroom foraging is relevant to the topic of someone maybe having died from eating the wrong mushroom sourced from mushroom foraging? Do you think it's not relevant? It might not be that interesting, but you and I already made an off-the-cuff remark into way more of a thing than it deserved. Just downvote if you don't like the comment.

Do you think a recently made AI generated book only available in English and from western shops has made its way to a 77yo Russian executive who probably learnt to pick mushrooms 50 years ago?

That's plainly not what pbhjpbhj said.

Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

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The thing about the mafia — and the Russian government today is more mafia than anything — is that you can’t continue to make empty threats. Even if everyone in your protection racket is paying up, and no one is squealing or making waves, you still need to remind people _why_ they keep paying you. So it’s absolutely in Putin’s interests to keep assassinating his adversaries, and not to disclaim credit even if the dea…

This is a relatively new trend in recent times following a failed coup.

Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

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What is recommended reading for getting started with mushroom foraging? It seems like such an interesting activity.

The vast majority of literature on the subject that I have seen uses drawings, not pictures... Probably part of the reason why this hobby has the reputation of killing people (in my country, Bulgaria, during the 90s and 00s). Not really answering your question, but it reminded me of...

As a contrepoint, when drawing you can emphasize on the specific features of the mushroom you're drawing whereas pictures are always being more ambiguous. And if the mushroom you're about to pick has unclear specific features, you should not pick it anyway!

Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

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This is not really suspicious. I regularly went foraging for shrooms in Ukraine with my gram gram, but I was not allowed to pick anything, of course. It requires expertise.

In that part of the world, this is very common, and so are the cases of people poisoning themselves because they think they are good at it.

If you can't relate - think of all the "gun people" who think they are experts on gun safety and then they end up shooting themselves by accident.

Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

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post #13

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At 77 years, he certainly knew what he's picking up, it's not that hard to learn edible mushrooms, poisonous mushrooms and ignore the rest which may be edible but also not.

This is not remotely what the "common knowledge" about mushroom foraging is in Eastern Europe. There is a "funny" story in Bulgaria how the most famous mushroom foraging expert in Bulgaria a few decades ago died because he made a mistake when foraging. Plenty of edible mushrooms are just "twins" of poisonous mushrooms, using animal's knowledge to not eat them, without expending the metabolic cost to actually produce…

> Plenty of edible mushrooms are just "twins" of poisonous mushrooms

These are also living, evolving organisms. There will be mutants who knock back on a poisonous gene.

Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At 77 years, he certainly knew what he's picking up, it's not that hard to learn edible mushrooms, poisonous mushrooms and ignore the rest which may be edible but also not.

This is not remotely what the "common knowledge" about mushroom foraging is in Eastern Europe. There is a "funny" story in Bulgaria how the most famous mushroom foraging expert in Bulgaria a few decades ago died because he made a mistake when foraging. Plenty of edible mushrooms are just "twins" of poisonous mushrooms, using animal's knowledge to not eat them, without expending the metabolic cost to actually produce…

Your counter example is one guy dying from poisoning, in a country that does a lot of shroom foraging (берем гъби у гората).

The Russia rocket expert was likely killed.

Re: Top Russian rocket scientist dies from ‘mushroom poisoning’

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At 77 years, he certainly knew what he's picking up, it's not that hard to learn edible mushrooms, poisonous mushrooms and ignore the rest which may be edible but also not.

This is not remotely what the "common knowledge" about mushroom foraging is in Eastern Europe. There is a "funny" story in Bulgaria how the most famous mushroom foraging expert in Bulgaria a few decades ago died because he made a mistake when foraging. Plenty of edible mushrooms are just "twins" of poisonous mushrooms, using animal's knowledge to not eat them, without expending the metabolic cost to actually produce…

> There is a "funny" story in Bulgaria how the most famous mushroom foraging expert in Bulgaria a few decades ago died because he made a mistake when foraging.

Do you have a citation or evidence for this? I ask because a while ago another commenter on HN said that the president of a mushroom society in Boston died from the same thing, and when I looked and searched I could find no mentions of this.

Without additional evidence I'm putting all claims of "Mushroom expert does from mushroom misidentification!" into the "old wives tale/bullshit bucket". These types of stories just seem to be the ones that people love to talk about and share, even if they originate as a falsehood. Again, not saying it's not possible, but I am saying without a reasonable citation I'm discounting it as BS.

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