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Re: "Lighten up"

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While I sympathize for the person, I can't help but wonder if it was the right decision. She's going to be facing the same problems in every male-dominated industry; is it worth giving up the thing you love? I can't answer, obviously, because I'm male, and in a different position besides that.

Thankfully, I've never run into this in real life. I've always worked with coworkers respectful of each other, and I can't imagine tolerating that kind of sexism without any confrontation. One would think people would learn to interact—or rather, which interactions are harmful—with people of different genders at a younger age.

Re: "Lighten up"

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post #3

While I sympathize for the person, I can't help but wonder if it was the right decision. She's going to be facing the same problems in every male-dominated industry; is it worth giving up the thing you love? I can't answer, obviously, because I'm male, and in a different position besides that. Thankfully, I've never run into this in real life. I've always worked with coworkers respectful of each other, and I can't im…

I think I left that a little vague (the original title was clearer about me staying in IT). I'm still a developer.

It may exist in every industry, but this is the one I've chosen, and this is where I can start to make a change.

Re: "Lighten up"

#5
"What do you say to the guy who sits across from you when you dress up and makes a comment to everyone about it? "Oop, Katie's got the low cut dress on today! I know where I'm sitting!"

Yikes! What sort of a place was this, what sort of people was she working with? I've never seen/heard anything remotely like this.

It is sort of hard to generalize from such morons to the whole tech field.

Re: "Lighten up"

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post #3

While I sympathize for the person, I can't help but wonder if it was the right decision. She's going to be facing the same problems in every male-dominated industry; is it worth giving up the thing you love? I can't answer, obviously, because I'm male, and in a different position besides that. Thankfully, I've never run into this in real life. I've always worked with coworkers respectful of each other, and I can't im…

I think I left that a little vague (the original title was clearer about me staying in IT). I'm still a developer. It may exist in every industry, but this is the one I've chosen, and this is where I can start to make a change.

In your opinion, what is a potential solution to this problem?

Re: "Lighten up"

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post #5

"What do you say to the guy who sits across from you when you dress up and makes a comment to everyone about it? "Oop, Katie's got the low cut dress on today! I know where I'm sitting!" Yikes! What sort of a place was this, what sort of people was she working with? I've never seen/heard anything remotely like this. It is sort of hard to generalize from such morons to the whole tech field.

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Re: "Lighten up"

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think I left that a little vague (the original title was clearer about me staying in IT). I'm still a developer. It may exist in every industry, but this is the one I've chosen, and this is where I can start to make a change.

In your opinion, what is a potential solution to this problem?

1. Awareness.

2. You'd be shocked how much better my environment would be if, when I expressed concern about something, I was not told to 'lighten up', but if my concern was treated as valid.

Re: "Lighten up"

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post #3

While I sympathize for the person, I can't help but wonder if it was the right decision. She's going to be facing the same problems in every male-dominated industry; is it worth giving up the thing you love? I can't answer, obviously, because I'm male, and in a different position besides that. Thankfully, I've never run into this in real life. I've always worked with coworkers respectful of each other, and I can't im…

I think I left that a little vague (the original title was clearer about me staying in IT). I'm still a developer. It may exist in every industry, but this is the one I've chosen, and this is where I can start to make a change.

> It may exist in every industry, but this is the one I've chosen, and this is where I can start to make a change.

Good! I think that's the right decision. I can't imagine what would cause the world to get better about this aside from women, on a global scale, making it very clear that it's not OK.

Re: "Lighten up"

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In your opinion, what is a potential solution to this problem?

1. Awareness. 2. You'd be shocked how much better my environment would be if, when I expressed concern about something, I was not told to 'lighten up', but if my concern was treated as valid.

I'm surprised by that response, 'lighten up' to be clear. We always joked around and if anybody, whether it be female or male, got offended then it was certainly not OK. I have never worked with anybody that intentionally tried to offend somebody and was nothing but apologetic if it occurred. Though I am sure there are plenty that exist.
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