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Microsoft is killing WordPad in Windows

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Re: Microsoft is killing WordPad in Windows

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post #12

Cannot say if Notepad does it in recent versions, but on older Windows systems Wordpad was useful to quickly open texts made on Linux (with just LF instead of CR+LF) which in Notepad would show as uninterrupted.

They did indeed add LF support to Notepad, 5 years ago:

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/extended-eol-in-n...

Re: Microsoft is killing WordPad in Windows

#32
WordPad was always useful to read RTF files, which used to be pretty common. I guess they have been replaced by PDFs at this stage.

Would still be nice if Windows had some sort of basic word processor, as WordPad had functionality that many users would still find useful, basically just fonts and headings.

Re: Microsoft is killing WordPad in Windows

#33
post #12

Cannot say if Notepad does it in recent versions, but on older Windows systems Wordpad was useful to quickly open texts made on Linux (with just LF instead of CR+LF) which in Notepad would show as uninterrupted.

They did indeed add LF support to Notepad, 5 years ago: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/extended-eol-in-n...

Took them long enough, honestly it was bizarre how long it took them.

Even worse was how resizing the notepad window would introduce newlines into the text if you saved it.

Re: Microsoft is killing WordPad in Windows

#34
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LibreOffice isn't exactly lightweight, but it is a Free (as in beer, and as in speech) local alternative. https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download-libreoffice/ edit: Huh, it's even less lightweight for Windows. The Linux downloads come in around 200-220MiB, but the Windows downloads are around 320-350MiB. Weird.

I'm not sure if that's the case for LibreOffice, but it's common for FOSS projects to have fatter binaries for Windows, since they're often using a bunch of wrappers to get POSIX-y things to work Windows. In this case they're also shipping rpm/deb packages, it's likely that on Linux they use your system's GTK and in Windows they bundle it.

> it's likely that on Linux they use your system's GTK and in Windows they bundle it.

They have their own toolkit - VCL - which has GTK and Qt backends for Linux, and a native Windows backend for Windows.

Re: Microsoft is killing WordPad in Windows

#35
post #3

Word pad was basically Word for Windows 6 and was quite usable for basic needs. Really only finally out to pasture by the free Google Docs, I’m sure wordpad killed a decent ecosystem of editors that may one day have competed with Word.

Everything MS does is for the business case. Wordpad, windows, etc exist only in a capitalist context and need a financial justification to exist. It was there exactly for the reasons you state, to kill the word processor market in Windows. Previously you had all these other players but Win95 came with Wordpad for free which had a lot of functionality. For pros, you could buy Word. I don't think we appreciate how man…

>Notepad aim for killing Notepad++ and other complex editors

That seems unlikely when Microsoft is already investing so much in VSCode.

Re: Microsoft is killing WordPad in Windows

#36
post #3

Word pad was basically Word for Windows 6 and was quite usable for basic needs. Really only finally out to pasture by the free Google Docs, I’m sure wordpad killed a decent ecosystem of editors that may one day have competed with Word.

Everything MS does is for the business case. Wordpad, windows, etc exist only in a capitalist context and need a financial justification to exist. It was there exactly for the reasons you state, to kill the word processor market in Windows. Previously you had all these other players but Win95 came with Wordpad for free which had a lot of functionality. For pros, you could buy Word. I don't think we appreciate how man…

> Notepad aim for killing Notepad++ and other complex editors.

Won't ever happen. For it to even have a chance, it would need to have syntax highlighting, which Microsoft will never add.

Re: Microsoft is killing WordPad in Windows

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post #6
post #4

>There’s no reason to be outraged by this decision, as WordPad has been out-of-date for years and is barely usable for its intended purpose, which was to replace to view and edit rich text files (RTF, or *.rtf). It can open and edit docx files, no? MS has suggested Office as an alternative, but Office costs money, so yes, this is lost functionality. And no I am not interested in uploading my docx files to google docs…

Are you too good for LibreOffice?

Yes.

Re: Microsoft is killing WordPad in Windows

#38
post #12

Cannot say if Notepad does it in recent versions, but on older Windows systems Wordpad was useful to quickly open texts made on Linux (with just LF instead of CR+LF) which in Notepad would show as uninterrupted.

They did indeed add LF support to Notepad, 5 years ago: https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/extended-eol-in-n...

Thank you, though now I cannot anymore honestly state that MS did not introduce any new meaningful feature in Windows 10 ;).

Re: Microsoft is killing WordPad in Windows

#39
I use Linux and BSD primarily but at my job where we use Windows I actually quite like wordpad.exe/write.exe (same thing?) for dissecting prod logs complete with highlights, formatting, etc.. Once you turn off line spacing and margins, it's quite good and generally pretty fast at wrangling a bunch of text that you may end up emailing via Outlook.

Re: Microsoft is killing WordPad in Windows

#40
One interesting thing about WordPad (at least from the Windows XP / 7 era) was that it supported the complete OLE2 / ActiveX stack.

This let you do all kinds of things like embed other types of controls (like canvases or images from Paint, or Excel tables) inside your document, and WordPad's UI would jump through all the hoops to update and transform into the embedded application's UI when that control gained focus. This made it a pretty useful testing app when I was interning at MS and working on embeddable Inking surfaces for Tablet PC. (Yes, I'm a dinosaur)

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