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Tesla, Rivian Put on Fake Show of Support for ‘Right to Repair’

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Re: Tesla, Rivian Put on Fake Show of Support for ‘Right to Repair’

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Post by javajosh »

Rather than us fighting for the right to repair, shouldn't manufacturers be fighting for the right to limit our ability to repair? Isn't "right to repair" the default state? The right to repair, modify, disassemble, recombine your own property is a key component of capitalism, is it not?

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Post by echelon »

Since EVs are mechanically simpler, I'd really like to see a return to kit cars.

Perhaps you could buy the preassembled chassis and modify the rest of the car as you'd like.

Maybe you could tear down the whole thing and rebuild it.

In theory this should be super accessible. You might see a whole community spring up over it. It's potentially a huge market ranging from teenagers to retirees. Lots of people love cars and modifying them.

There might be lots of companies that get in on the action and build a full ecosystem of compatible parts.

It'd be really neat.

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Post by xg15 »

javajosh wrote: post #3

Rather than us fighting for the right to repair, shouldn't manufacturers be fighting for the right to limit our ability to repair? Isn't "right to repair" the default state? The right to repair, modify, disassemble, recombine your own property is a key component of capitalism, is it not?

I think in the current flavor of capitalism, the key component is "fuck you, I got mine".

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Post by circuit10 »

javajosh wrote: post #3

Rather than us fighting for the right to repair, shouldn't manufacturers be fighting for the right to limit our ability to repair? Isn't "right to repair" the default state? The right to repair, modify, disassemble, recombine your own property is a key component of capitalism, is it not?

Right to repair is about making sure manufacturers can’t intentionally block repair. Also there have been some cases of people getting into legal trouble for doing things like using aftermarket (“counterfeit”) parts, I remember hearing about a repair shop having to destroy iPhone screens

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Post by extraduder_ire »

echelon wrote: post #4

Since EVs are mechanically simpler, I'd really like to see a return to kit cars. Perhaps you could buy the preassembled chassis and modify the rest of the car as you'd like. Maybe you could tear down the whole thing and rebuild it. In theory this should be super accessible. You might see a whole community spring up over it. It's potentially a huge market ranging from teenagers to retirees. Lots of people love cars an…

Would be nice, but the economics would be kinda wack with how much of the cost is in the battery pack. Especially when companies like tesla put the same pack in all their cars and determine your "capacity" in software.

I'd imagine that would either change, or people would start buying up the lowest-cost EVs just to pull the battery out of them (like "shucking" external drives) and resell all the other parts.

Re: Tesla, Rivian Put on Fake Show of Support for ‘Right to Repair’

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Post by cj »

omgJustTest wrote: post #2

You can’t even jump another car with your Tesla, let alone do repairs.

Adding to that, you also can't jump start another Tesla with your Tesla (according to the manual)

Edit: link to jumpstarting in manual: https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_au/GUID-3567D5F...

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