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1. It disables GPU acceleration on Chromium/Chrome
2. A major regression introduced glitches on all the electron apps (slack, signal etc..)
I spent hours trying to troubleshoot those and dozens of flags combinations, nothing works. KDE + Nvidia + Electron/chromium apps is probably a very common set people use... Are the Wayland users still that fringe?
I tried sway and foot (as replacement for i3 and xterm) and found the input latency to be really bad. Is this a Wayland problem or was i having bad luck with foot?
* It broke screen sharing things
* It removed X forwarding
* It made my copy-paste life more complicated
* It made steam ui ever slower
Were these points fixed? what is the current usability of Wayland on these fronts?
In particular, I don't think anybody cares whether users " will be moved by Wayland's technical merits". The question is whether devs will be moved.
- keep using X and stay healthy
- switch to Wayland and get strong nerve pain again
- switch to Windows or Mac
If Wayland were my only option, I would have to leave Linux for my health. So the technical merits of Wayland truly don’t matter.
Accessibility is an oft forgotten requirement and it’s something that can affect all of us at one time or another. We ought not ignore it.
It also have a lot of very brain-dead decisions like moving a lot of what X did to the external tools and so now everyone making a desktop environment needs to worry about handling various input configuration or even to have working screenshots.
X might be crufty code-wise but it was right level of abstraction, allowing WMs and tools built above that to not care all that much about hardware and remain relatively simple.
It's run that way ever since (over 2 years now) and I've only had to switch back to X once or twice to make certain games work on Steam, or just to stop myself from pulling my hair out with OBS. Other than that, it's mostly unnoticeable. Pretty impressive from my perspective.
> Suggesting that these people change to a Linux environment with Wayland support is a non-starter; they are presumably using their current environment for good reasons That’s a hell of an assumption
These days that seems to be less of a factor, I gather that a new parallel system of standards have sprung up that technically haven't replaced Wayland but ... for all practical purposes everyone will need to implement the screen-sharing aspects of that world. The parts are slowly being put into place.
But final adoption depends precisely on what the distro maintainers think is a good idea with a little dash of whether it is technically possible for Wayland to work. We put up with X, so Wayland has a low bar to clear technically.