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The Scourge of Airport Noise

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Re: The Scourge of Airport Noise

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Noise in cities is primarily driven by cars. Densification if done right could even make things quieter (e g. Reduce stroads and have more bicycles)

Fortunately this goes away as more cars go electric. Next!

Unfortunately, it doesn't change at all with electric cars, because most of the noise comes from tires, not engine exhaust.

Next!

Re: The Scourge of Airport Noise

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Noise in cities is primarily driven by cars. Densification if done right could even make things quieter (e g. Reduce stroads and have more bicycles)

Absolutely. Walking around Osaka, Tokyo etc, it's so incredibly quiet. Eventually you will come to a road and the difference is so obvious, you really feel how unpleasant roads are in a city. It's surprising how much a bit of distance helps too. Just a street back from a stroad and you're already much better off sound wise. We don't have to abandon roads just be smarter with where we put faster roads (50kmph+ is prob…

Exactly; I live in Tokyo and even in areas with huge apartment blocks, it's very quiet, particularly at night. The only place it's noisy is near the highway (and even that isn't that noisy compared to American highways, because the speeds are significantly lower). It's one of the many reasons I moved here.

Re: The Scourge of Airport Noise

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This is a major reason that people pay for premium lounge access, it is not the food, nor the booze but the quite that is the true luxury.

> This is a major reason that people pay for premium lounge access, it is not the food, nor the booze but the quiet that is the true luxury. Not true for middle-class lounges such as Centurion, Priority Pass, and most airline lounges (Polaris, Flagship, Senator, Singapore, etc). Most go for food or drinks. The lounges are often crowded and loud with silverware, plates, kids, and TVs. For elite lounges such as the Pri…

lufthansa elite? MUC/FRA was pretty mid. Polaris SFO was amazing

Re: The Scourge of Airport Noise

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Kinda the same as 'please listen carefully as our menu options have changed' and 'we're experiencing higher than usual calls'. Or all the texts I get about remindeds of appointments followed by asking for reviews. It's like every channel is being abused to get us to do something. And I fail to pick out the important ones. Side note, with people wanting more dense housing, noise levels will go up.

Noise in cities is primarily driven by cars. Densification if done right could even make things quieter (e g. Reduce stroads and have more bicycles)

Road noise is mostly white noise when indoors, and reduced to nearly inaudible by good windows. The really disruptive noise is caused by increased density - the apartment above with a subwoofer or an exercise routine that involves dropping weights, kids running up and down the hall shrieking, stuff like that. Landlords are supposed to address issues like that, but getting them to handle noise issues can be very frustrating. Living in a detached house is incredibly quiet compared to dense apartment accomodations.

Re: The Scourge of Airport Noise

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More disturbing to me is how loud it gets when you're actually on the airplane. The plane itself is very loud, that can't be helped I guess, but the crew seemingly has to shout irrelevant things at you every five minutes through that awful megaphone style onboard speaker system. For the millionth time some safety instructions, then welcome this, goodbye that, please buy perfume, please buy lottery cards, please reserve a shuttle taxi, and so on.

All very loud, and combined with a sound quality that reminds me of a 20 bucks portable radio makes for a miserable experience.

I vote for quiet airplanes in addition to quiet airports!

Re: The Scourge of Airport Noise

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Noise in cities is primarily driven by cars. Densification if done right could even make things quieter (e g. Reduce stroads and have more bicycles)

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“Stroad” is the urbanism aficionado portmanteau of street and road; a common feature in North American urban and suburban design where the speeds, (lack of) curves and lane-count of roads are combined with the traffic lights and access to businesses and homes of streets (and all their attendant car infrastructure).

Re: The Scourge of Airport Noise

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Fortunately this goes away as more cars go electric. Next!

Unfortunately, it doesn't change at all with electric cars, because most of the noise comes from tires, not engine exhaust. Next!

Some measurements: https://youtu.be/CTV-wwszGw8?t=609&feature=shared

The noisiest vehicles in the centre of Copenhagen seem to be diesel delivery vans, so it's a decent improvement as these are swapped for electric ones.

Re: The Scourge of Airport Noise

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There's big variation between airlines, though, so I think that's not the entire explanation. In many cases I think that there is nobody involved with the decision of which announcements to include who really has the job of caring about the overall passenger experience. In some airlines in Asia you get every announcement in three languages, and your IFE is interrupted by all of them, regardless of whether you underst…

They can't really rely on the IFE being set to the correct language. I can read enough of several languages to navigate the menus, choose a film and so on, but not enough to understand the safety briefing. Many people won't touch the IFE at all, especially before take off.

In case you didn't touch it, it can of course just interrupt the IFE for all three languages, since you're apparently not using it anyway.

Re: The Scourge of Airport Noise

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Unfortunately, it doesn't change at all with electric cars, because most of the noise comes from tires, not engine exhaust. Next!

Some measurements: https://youtu.be/CTV-wwszGw8?t=609&feature=shared The noisiest vehicles in the centre of Copenhagen seem to be diesel delivery vans, so it's a decent improvement as these are swapped for electric ones.

The center of Copenhagen has very different traffic composition than essentially every American city.
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