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Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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I like Google Maps. More than Waze, more than Apple. I just want Waze's socialized data in Google Maps. Not a redesign of the app :/

I'm pretty sure Waze data, in highly processed form, makes it into Google Maps. That's why you get speed trap notifications in Google Maps, IIRC.

Aw t the very least, they have been organizationally combined within the company.

https://www.theverge.com/2022/12/8/23499734/google-maps-waze...

Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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One of my biggest irks with Google Maps is how aggressively it shows pins for hotels, bars and restaurants, even on their search results map. Do users really feel the need for this constant in-your-face advertisement? But as I type this, I realized Google is primarily an ad business and whatever will drive that revenue will get pushed further. Oh well.

Yes, there are many possible conflicts of interest in mapping. This is why I'm excited to see the improving usability of Open Street Maps through apps like Organic Maps, and big commercial investments in open mapping data from the Overture Maps Foundation. In many cases OSM has much more detail than google maps, with business listings and addresses being the biggest exceptions I have encountered. Fortunately, busines…

If you really just want a map, go use OSM. I love it as well and even contributed. But Google Maps is much more than OSM. The biggest difference and most important feature is its real-time traffic. OSM is just a totally different product seen through the car navigation lens.

Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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I can’t believe there’s only one image of Apple Maps in that article. Every image is captioned with “See! Look how similar it is” but I have nothing to compare it to.

I think the point is (despite the title) less that they're aping Apple's style, and more that the author believes the new style is generally worse than the old style.

On that point I personally agree, though it seems there's at least a few other people in the comments here who prefer the new style.

Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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One of my biggest irks with Google Maps is how aggressively it shows pins for hotels, bars and restaurants, even on their search results map. Do users really feel the need for this constant in-your-face advertisement? But as I type this, I realized Google is primarily an ad business and whatever will drive that revenue will get pushed further. Oh well.

Yes, absolutely. They seem to be imprinted on the tiles, too, you can't filter them out with an ad-block rule.

The API doesn't show all this in satellite (aerial view) mode, so sometimes it's tempting to use a service that relies on the maps API.

But even with the API it seems that now the maps view has all those pins for places; I seem to remember it wasn't always the case, but I'm not sure.

Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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Apple Maps rendering surpassed Google a lil while ago. I still use Google for a variety of reasons but I do think Apple’s map design is superior.

Depends on what you're talking about. For aesthetics? No question Apple's superior. For navigation? A tossup in my experience? For discovery of places and reviews? Google's so far ahead it's not even close. Apple's interface with Google's database of places and reviews would be the holy grail.

I'd love to use Apple maps.I just can't commit to a service that's only available on some of my devices & computers.

Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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I can’t believe there’s only one image of Apple Maps in that article. Every image is captioned with “See! Look how similar it is” but I have nothing to compare it to.

I’m not sure if it’s a law already but if not I’m claiming it in my name:

The more useful some graphics would be in an article, the less likely it is to contain any.

Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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What about actually improving directions, not sending us through barely usable roads in Mediterranean islands, if we can consider them roads at all.

Or shortcuts that might be interesting in a computer game, how the RTS units select their path, but hardly so when driving through a medieval village, instead of the somehow longer circular road that everyone should use.

Re: Google Maps Testing New Apple Maps-Inspired Map Style

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> The new New York map above looks comically bad, almost like student-level work. I found the new NY map refreshing because of its higher contrast between the streets and city blocks. Feels like it's easier to get a handle on what's on the screen. Granted, whenever a product gives me the opportunity to opt for increased contrast, I usually go for it.

That's super interesting, because to me the new one literally looks like a captcha! It would be completely unusable with careful perusal, let alone glancing down while navigating. The words all have lines of nearly the exact same color overlayed so I can't read them without squinting and going letter by letter.

I found out several years ago that I have some form of color blindness - amusingly enough during a design review for a map we were designing. I had the exact same problem, with everything bleeding together in an indistinguishable mass, and everyone looking at me like I had 3 heads when I asked how we could possibly ship something so unusable with no contrast.

I suspect there is something similar going on here. To me, the foreground text and background roads are nearly identical in hue and saturation. Is it high contrast to other people? The map I struggled with years ago was using two colors with similar saturation but different hues (a purple and a green/yellow), so I had to push to make sure that "high contrast" meant a difference in both hue AND saturation.

Shipping a couple map-related products has given me a real appreciation for how differently users can experience visual layouts. For one thing, technical people generally like maps a LOT more than the general population does, to the point that we take it for granted that it's the ideal way of presenting anything with a position component.

Quite a lot of people get overwhelmed by maps - they basically shut down and can't figure out the UI at all. Looking at the new version gave me that panicked feeling that I hear those users talk about.

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