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Social media decline: Users are shifting to messaging apps and group chats

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Re: Social media decline: Users are shifting to messaging apps and group chats

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My mastodon feed is 100% actual friends. That reality exists; it's just not evenly distributed yet.

Probably the nicest bonus feature of Mastodon is that I can subscribe to a friend's original posts but unsubscribe to their "boosts," which is Mastodon's way to quickly share content. This way I can follow artists that make cool stuff I want to keep up with, but I don't have to see their political reblogs and other interactions, which helps to cut down considerably on the noise. It's great because it's granular at th…

I wish SoundCloud supported this.

Re: Social media decline: Users are shifting to messaging apps and group chats

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""How does a brand show up in somebody's DMs or Discord server if they're not invited?" Haberman said. But in many ways, that's the point. People can still go on Instagram to check on their favorite celebrities and influencers, but young people don't want brands and marketers infiltrating the closed communities where they spend most of their time."

For some reason, it takes people a long time to figure this out. There is no room for advertising in peer-to-peer networks which is the OG design for the internet. I have been experimenting with running private L2 overlay networks since 2008, pre-Wireguard. The networks are small, managaeable, there are no strangers, no large audiences. If marketers, advertisers and so-called "tech" companies want to try to hack into each and every one of these private networks, then let them. It will be a ton of effort to do on a mass scale, and for little reward. If they are caught I think we can sue them.

The open web, walled gardens and "app stores" will always be around for marketers, advertisers and so-called "tech" companies. If anyone wants to communicate person to person or person to small group through a third party's website/server, say, "Mark Zuckerberg" or some other person they don't know, they certainly can. Unless it's HN, advertisers, "creators" and "influencers" will all be there.

Re: Social media decline: Users are shifting to messaging apps and group chats

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Probably the nicest bonus feature of Mastodon is that I can subscribe to a friend's original posts but unsubscribe to their "boosts," which is Mastodon's way to quickly share content. This way I can follow artists that make cool stuff I want to keep up with, but I don't have to see their political reblogs and other interactions, which helps to cut down considerably on the noise. It's great because it's granular at th…

I wish SoundCloud supported this.

Someone should make SoundCloud for the Fediverse.

Re: Social media decline: Users are shifting to messaging apps and group chats

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For a long time Facebook was friends only - so what you posted was only visible to people you knew. They slowly changed the default to friend of friends and then public and that changed the whole feel.

Nobody in their real mind has more than 10, let's say 15 close-ish friends (with whom to share photos of your unborn baby, for example), as such Facebook was never really about friends, it was more about acquaintances.

Sure, however I want to follow what acquaintances are doing too. It's especially useful if they are in my city and I see that on social media and want to catch up with them.

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A similar concept is whether something is a "tool" or not. Tools are things that you use to accomplish tasks. They behave predictably, and you can become skilled in using it more effectively. Non-tools are things that try to adapt to you. They're optimized for first-time users, or to create an "experience". You cannot go fast with them, even with familiarity. They don't act in your best interests. A hammer is a tool.…

But a tool for the most part is open source, a screw driver is a screw driver, if you turn a screwdriver to the right it pushes a screw into the wood. It doesn't take notes of the type of wood you are using and then strongly suggest that you buy walnut from Home Depot.

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Re: Social media decline: Users are shifting to messaging apps and group chats

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Excellently written. A nitpick on your final point: > Phones are an extension of our organ senses now. How will a world in which Things Come to Us and We Dont Go to Things anymore affect us cognitively long-term? This may be looking at it backwards. Rampant smartphone addiction and overuse begins to shape all things in a "medium is the message" type of effect. The less need there is to physically "Go to the Thing" -…

So you're saying we're allowing ourselves to be victimized by it via laziness ? That's certainly true, if that is what you mean. I guess the part I didn't speak about was: some people value independent thought more than others, and I think for those that do, the Things Come to You paradigm is even more frustrating. My concern is that children are growing up in the Come to You dynamic. Flip side: they can generate con…

I've watched Nirvana perform on local public access TV (ironically on Youtube) in 1989, so some level of public distribution was possible.

Similarly 50 Cent sold mixtapes of his music out of his car trunk to get the word out in the pre-Soundcloud era.

In the mid-00s, Kevin Hart (comedian) would maintain his own email lists when he toured, and would send out email blasts when he returned to those towns College bands used to do this as well, especially as email was adopted earlier there.

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An online community should feel like an online pub. It should have a vibe, some regulars, inside jokes, and a decorum that is somewhat well enforced. They're cosy places where a sense of belonging encourages participation and good behaviour. HN is like that. Small subreddits are like that. Group chats are like that. But now every social media website became like that one pedestrian street with the H&M and the McDonal…

My soccer club's message board is exactly like this. Old school phpBB, lots of cantankerous regulars and useless back and forth chatter, just like a pub. Design wise it's completely unchanged from the 00s look except for a mobile friendly stylesheet introduced some years ago.
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