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Re: USENET rises again?

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Post by tivert »

mindcrime wrote: post #38
rjsw wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a few people in my killfile so that I don't see messages from them but don't get much spam in the comp.* groups that I read. The threading and only seeing new messages is a lot better in my Usenet client than any web forum that I use, including this one.

The threading and only seeing new messages is a lot better in my Usenet client than any web forum that I use, including this one. Yep. The Usenet experience is nice. The only thing that really got me out of the habit of participating frequently was a combination of two factors: 1. My ISP quit providing NNTP access by default 2. So many other people moved off, that a lot of the groups became nothing but CfP's, spam, a…

> CfP's

What's that stand for?

Re: USENET rises again?

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Post by nunobrito »

zikduruqe wrote: post #117
BeetleB wrote: post #39

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> The purpose for a PAID Usenet provider is for hosting binaries (i.e. piracy). You're paying someone for the bandwidth, and ignore or deal with the DMCA takedown notices. There is little to no reason to have a paid Usenet account just to read or post on pure text forums, and NOT download porn or other pirated content. This may reflect the state today, but back in the late 90's and early 00's, it was not. Even for th…

If you want to live those good old BBS days again - https://www.telnet.org/htm/places.htm I played a few games of Tradewars on one of these a while ago. It sure brought back the days of being a sysop of my local BBS growing up.

telnet cavebbs.homeip.net

Everyone is playing LORD (Legend Of the Red Dragon) there.

Re: USENET rises again?

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Post by nunobrito »

Nostr is the new usenet.

Back to basics with volunteer-relays and zero servers. Carry your own texts anywhere without censorship. Share files, share tweets (xeets), just share anything with anonymity.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed usenet and IRC. I still enjoy BBS today, the only thing that really replaced the 90s feeling of the usenet is truly Nostr.

Re: USENET rises again?

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Post by hkt »

tivert wrote: post #121
mindcrime wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The threading and only seeing new messages is a lot better in my Usenet client than any web forum that I use, including this one. Yep. The Usenet experience is nice. The only thing that really got me out of the habit of participating frequently was a combination of two factors: 1. My ISP quit providing NNTP access by default 2. So many other people moved off, that a lot of the groups became nothing but CfP's, spam, a…

> CfP's What's that stand for?

Call for Papers I'd guess

Re: USENET rises again?

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Post by hkt »

reidrac wrote: post #80
mindcrime wrote: post #18

I was in an AI conference yesterday, and there was a bunch of discussion in the chat about Slack channels, Discord servers, etc. So I was literally just lamenting the state of shared discussion forums, and commented that we all need to go back to Usenet and drop all these lame "walled garden" proprietary forums. I'd like to tell people "install Thunderbird, sign up for a free Usenet provider, and join comp.ai, comp.m…

> sign up for a free Usenet provider Sorry, but you make it sound like there are many. That allow posting, and free, I think I only know one.

https://sdf.org/?faq?USENET?03

Not free, but a few dollars for ARPA membership for life is good.

Re: USENET rises again?

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Post by alexpotato »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #84
alexpotato wrote: post #72

I just recently started reading Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge and it's fascinating that he thought Usenet (or something VERY similar) would be how civilizations communicate with each other across the galaxy. (Granted, it was written in the early 90s but feels very apropos to see a post about it here on HN)

Given the time lag - even with FTL! - it still seems much more reasonable than Star Trek's flawless, synchronous video with automatic translation that works flawlessly and is never remarked upon (Unless the plot requires it).

Totally!

The parts where the organization is notifying its users:

"Sorry, a giant AI is using all of our bandwidth" reminded me of several conversations I've had with networking teams over the years.

Re: USENET rises again?

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Post by reidrac »

hkt wrote: post #125
reidrac wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> sign up for a free Usenet provider Sorry, but you make it sound like there are many. That allow posting, and free, I think I only know one.

https://sdf.org/?faq?USENET?03 Not free, but a few dollars for ARPA membership for life is good.

I'm on sdf-eu. Not sure SDF has external groups anymore, they may do. Just double check because the website has had outdated info before.

AFAIK the best options are https://www.eternal-september.org/ and https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com/ (read only though).

Re: USENET rises again?

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Post by squarefoot »

layer8 wrote: post #120
reaperducer wrote: post #83

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sign up for a free Usenet provider Any suggestions?

https://www.eternal-september.org/

Just a warning: Eternal September's administrator doesn't give a damn about trolls and spammers posting through that server; every single complaint I filed went 100% ignored.

Re: USENET rises again?

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Post by fweimer »

StevePerkins wrote: post #2

Am I missing the "rises again like a Phoenix" part? This article is just a brief description of what Usenet is, for people under 45 years of age. There's nothing in here about Usenet usage being on the rise, or anything like that. This article talks about Google Groups in the present tense, even though its Usenet hosting permanently ceased around 8 years ago.

Some parts of Google's bi-directional gateway are still up. These look current relative to the NNTP Usenet:

https://groups.google.com/g/de.soc.recht.steuern+buchfuehrun... https://groups.google.com/g/de.soc.recht.misc

(The second group even has some recent spam in it, which is rare nowadays.)

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