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The great cancellation: why megabucks TV shows are vanishing without a trace

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This article doesn't really explain the "why". The title is very misleading.

Seems like the economic logic of streaming has changed, and this article failed to explain how, merely hint at it.

I would suspect that the companies are shifting to slow release schedules in response to the writers and actors strike.

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This article doesn't really explain the "why". The title is very misleading.

They explain that the benefit to the companies is the tax write off. The part they don’t explain is how little money shows like these generate that they’re worth less than the potential write off. The big semi-open secret in streaming right now is that viewership is a lot lower than people think and much less correlated with show “quality” (where by “quality” here I mean production cost). This is why the whole industry is introducing ad-supported tiers. Look for that to be paired with shows that are radically cheaper to make and payout less to talent in residuals, ie. reality TV. The last decade of streaming has been a big bubble. The economics are fundamentally unchanged from 2008 basic cable so as these services try to actually become profitable expect the content to look a lot more like Toddlers And Tiaras than Westworld and expect to watch a lot more ads.

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This article doesn't really explain the "why". The title is very misleading.

They explain that the benefit to the companies is the tax write off. The part they don’t explain is how little money shows like these generate that they’re worth less than the potential write off. The big semi-open secret in streaming right now is that viewership is a lot lower than people think and much less correlated with show “quality” (where by “quality” here I mean production cost). This is why the whole indust…

The streaming boom was what, the last decade? Whenever Netflix started spending on House of Cards? Billions spent on prestige TV shows to acquire market share and they all have seemingly no cultural relevance at all. None will be remembered or cherished 10+ years from now I think. Pretty insane.

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This article doesn't really explain the "why". The title is very misleading.

They do explain "why", but not in much detail or context.

> it was axed as a cost-cutting exercise.

>In May, Disney+ announced a content removal plan designed to cut US$1.5bn worth of content, meaning it substantially reduces the company’s value, giving it a lot less tax to pay.

Cost-cutting doesn't make sense if it also cuts your revenue to the same degree. I also don't know of any tax that is based purely on the value of the company. Income tax is based on income -- if you make a profit and pay tax, you are still ahead compared to not doing so.

More importantly, why do the shareholders tolerate this? Why would they want to "substantially reduce the company's value"?

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How much of this tax reduction is based on convoluted Hollywood accounting? If the tax on the value of the show is higher than the streaming revenues, doesn’t that imply that the valuation is bogus?

Can someone explain how the numbers add up here?

Re: The great cancellation: why megabucks TV shows are vanishing without a trace

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This article doesn't really explain the "why". The title is very misleading.

They do explain "why", but not in much detail or context. > it was axed as a cost-cutting exercise. >In May, Disney+ announced a content removal plan designed to cut US$1.5bn worth of content, meaning it substantially reduces the company’s value, giving it a lot less tax to pay. Cost-cutting doesn't make sense if it also cuts your revenue to the same degree. I also don't know of any tax that is based purely on the va…

I think the article phrased it sloppily. I think what’s happening is that the studios write off the cost of the production as a loss and they can only do that if they don’t have them available to stream where they could in theory generate revenue in the future. The phrase about “the company’s value” is just sloppy/mistaken here.

The reason it makes sense for the studios to remove these shows for the minimal benefit represented by a lowered tax burden is that the shows generate shockingly little viewership let alone revenue. The mechanism for the relationship between those things is pretty fuzzy in a subscription-based world in the first place, Did a single viewer signup for Netflix or decide not to cancel their subscription because of The Irishman, for example? That movie cost Netflix something upwards of $160 million. It made $8 million in its theatrical release. Is there any world where the remaining cost was made up for by new or retained streaming customers? I highly doubt it.

This is why the whole streaming industry is moving to ad-supported and low cost reality content. And why the services are fighting the WGA demands to release streaming viewership numbers as part of paying writers residuals. It’s not the cost of the residuals. It’s the numbers. If streaming viewership numbers were public Netflix stock would go to 0 the next day.

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